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  1. Great post. Personally, I see the Celestial room as the PERFECT place to discuss the temple endowment and have enjoyed many quiet conversations with friends there. What other place is there, if not the Celestial room, to discuss the endowment with the required depth and specificity not offered elsewhere?

  2. Thanks Brian. I agree that the celestial room is the perfect place to talk in detail directly about the temple endowment, as are other places in the temple. Unfortunately, I don’t think many take advantage of that opportunity. Nibley was invited several times to talk with BYU faculty and administration in the Provo temple. Boy, would I have liked to sit in on those meetings!

  3. I think it is more than we don’t talk about the Temple because we keep it as a sacred secret. Rather, I think we don’t know how to talk about the Temple, so we use its sacred nature as a cover for our own ignorance. Case in point? This very blog. At first I was excited by the prospect of having an entire blog dedicated to the subject, but have not been completely impressed. Instead of discussing the Temple, it has become a regurgitation of what others have said about the Temple.

    My favorite book on the subject is “The Gates of Heaven” by Brown where I learned more about the Temple than any other source besides Nibley. Oh, and you cannot have a proper education about the Temple without reading “Temple and the Cosmos” by Nibley. Believe it or not, if I was to recommend any non-Mormon book that illuminates the Temple it would be “The Hero with a Thousand Faces” by Joseph Campbell. I listed a few others must read books when I had a short series on understanding the Temple at my own blog.

  4. Jettboy,

    I think you are right about why we don’t talk about the temple – that we don’t know how to talk about it. I’m sorry that you have not been pleased with this blog. The whole point of this blog was to begin opening up conversation about the temple in an appropriate way, and help to teach us how we can talk about the temple, and keep our covenants. That includes exploring and demonstrating what many others have already said about the temple which has been mostly ignored, i.e. Hugh Nibley, or at least has not been explored thoroughly. I believe Nibley opened a door, but we have yet to step through and discover the room. We’re building on the shoulders of giants here.

    I too really enjoy Matthew Brown’s book “The Gates of Heaven” and Nibley’s “Temple and the Cosmos.” They are some of the best books on the subject. But I wouldn’t get very far if I didn’t build off and share on this blog what they have contributed to the matter, as a starting place for more discussion and further study. If you read much Nibley you know that he quoted and “regurgitated” many times things which Joseph and Brigham and what the scriptures have to say on matters such as these, not that he wasn’t concerned about furthering the conversation, but that he felt like we had not heard the whole message yet.

    There are many things that I have written on this blog that I have not regurgitated from others, one specifically being my paper on “The Genesis of the Round Dance,” which didn’t received as much as one comment. I’m discouraged when I write an original paper such as that, and receive no commentary, but if I quote so much as a word from Nibley, I get a whole spectrum of discussion. But don’t fret; I have many more ideas in mind.

  5. yea, I can see how that can be frustrating. Again, I think that goes back to not knowing how to talk about the Temple when there are restrictions. Not that I know how to talk about it either, but I have tried to internalize the discussion with myself. Topics I have been thinking over:

    1. The meaning and practical use of Covenant ritual.
    2. Understanding our spirtual journey by understanding the Temple.
    3. Individual, Familial, and Communal salvation made possible by the Atonement.
    4. Taking on the name of Jesus with symbolism.
    5. How the Temple and Scripture teach each other.

    Just with I had the time and talent to put these and other thoughts down on paper.

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