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	<title>Comments on: Tallit Katan &#8211; The Sacred Undergarment of Judaism</title>
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		<title>By: Faith Dreher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Faith Dreher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 17:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Learned  something  new  today.  All  comments  were  in  good  taste   &amp;  respectful   of  individuals  beliefs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Learned  something  new  today.  All  comments  were  in  good  taste   &amp;  respectful   of  individuals  beliefs.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Uchytil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benjamin Uchytil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2010 08:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a yeshiva-educated Orthodox Jew.  We are not embarrassed by pictures of the tallit katan - not a problem.    The tallit katan is not truly thought of as &#039;underwear&#039;, and so we are not embarrassed.  Although most Jews were them under their shirts, some Chassidic Jews even wear them over their shirts for the whole world to see.  Point being: your picture is in good taste; in fact, I was honored to see your picture and description.  Thank you, everyone, for your sensitivity and caring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a yeshiva-educated Orthodox Jew.  We are not embarrassed by pictures of the tallit katan &#8211; not a problem.    The tallit katan is not truly thought of as &#8216;underwear&#8217;, and so we are not embarrassed.  Although most Jews were them under their shirts, some Chassidic Jews even wear them over their shirts for the whole world to see.  Point being: your picture is in good taste; in fact, I was honored to see your picture and description.  Thank you, everyone, for your sensitivity and caring.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 03:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was a very nice Article- I am not Mormon- I&#039;m a Torah-Brit&#039; Chadacha Observant believer - the picture posted was in good taste -  and Yeshua would have worn something like the garment worn here: 

http://www.israelvisit.co.il/beged-ivri/catalogue/Tallith.htm

My Beloved Brothers and Sisters - We should not feel scared or timid in learning our Hebraic Roots... and I pray Yahweh Blesses you all in feeling more open and comfortable in seeing how the feasts He has ordained -  eventually would give you pictures and types of Yeshua&#039;s pupose and his Kingship... 
Shalom...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was a very nice Article- I am not Mormon- I&#8217;m a Torah-Brit&#8217; Chadacha Observant believer &#8211; the picture posted was in good taste &#8211;  and Yeshua would have worn something like the garment worn here: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.israelvisit.co.il/beged-ivri/catalogue/Tallith.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.israelvisit.co.il/beged-ivri/catalogue/Tallith.htm</a></p>
<p>My Beloved Brothers and Sisters &#8211; We should not feel scared or timid in learning our Hebraic Roots&#8230; and I pray Yahweh Blesses you all in feeling more open and comfortable in seeing how the feasts He has ordained &#8211;  eventually would give you pictures and types of Yeshua&#8217;s pupose and his Kingship&#8230;<br />
Shalom&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bryce Haymond</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryce Haymond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 04:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting comments.  I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve ever seen the Mormon garment posted on a website in good taste, and doubt that the Church would find it acceptable even if it was done in good taste.  I believe that part of our covenant is to keep them private and not accessible visually to society at large.  For this reason, only members of the Church can buy garments, whereas it appears anyone could purchase a tallit katan.  Admittedly, these practices do contribute to the apprehension that people have of the garment that is not found as much with Judaism.  The garment is more private.

As far as the form of the garment, that may have some effect of others understanding of them.  For Mormons, of course, I think it matters little the form they take.  The form of the garment, as with the form of the temple ordinances, has changed slightly over time to adapt to the needs and circumstances of the people by revelation through God&#039;s chosen prophets and apostles.  I believe the vestments of the Lord&#039;s covenant people have always followed closely the most respectable and proper forms of the day.

As with all subjects temple-related, I agree that we should speak more about them with others, but always in an appropriate way according to what we&#039;ve learned from the General Authorities and trusted scholars, or through the comparative study of other traditions as we&#039;ve done here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting comments.  I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve ever seen the Mormon garment posted on a website in good taste, and doubt that the Church would find it acceptable even if it was done in good taste.  I believe that part of our covenant is to keep them private and not accessible visually to society at large.  For this reason, only members of the Church can buy garments, whereas it appears anyone could purchase a tallit katan.  Admittedly, these practices do contribute to the apprehension that people have of the garment that is not found as much with Judaism.  The garment is more private.</p>
<p>As far as the form of the garment, that may have some effect of others understanding of them.  For Mormons, of course, I think it matters little the form they take.  The form of the garment, as with the form of the temple ordinances, has changed slightly over time to adapt to the needs and circumstances of the people by revelation through God&#8217;s chosen prophets and apostles.  I believe the vestments of the Lord&#8217;s covenant people have always followed closely the most respectable and proper forms of the day.</p>
<p>As with all subjects temple-related, I agree that we should speak more about them with others, but always in an appropriate way according to what we&#8217;ve learned from the General Authorities and trusted scholars, or through the comparative study of other traditions as we&#8217;ve done here.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 02:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a similar thought about the picture but thought instead that perhaps as Mormons we should not be surprised or react so harshly if others post a picture of Mormon garments, if done in good taste, as I believe your intentions are here with the tallit katan.  More often than not it is not done in good taste and society at large has not come to the defense of the Mormons as they would if people paraded in front of a synagogue in New York making a complete mockery of the tallit or yarmulka.  Perhaps that will come with time.   

I think Mormon garments are viewed with greater suspicion than the tallit katan or other religious clothing because we do have a stronger element of &#039;secrecy&#039; in the way we interpret the charge to keep them sacred.  We do not have fringe sticking out or do not outwardly have other signs of orthodoxy to act as visual cues; we do not talk about it them in our meetings and people are not exposed to them visually in society.  I could have described a tallit and yarmulka when I was 6 having watched Fiddler on the Roof.  

 I think part of the issue is also in the design, just the fact that Mormon garments take an ancient tradition and put them on clothing that has a modern look and feel, i.e. boxers and a t-shirt and not of a pattern or design that has a stronger, shall we say, artistic or ethnic touch.  The tallit katan in design and fabric still has an &#039;ancient&#039; look to it.  We can see Jesus wearing this same style of dress and it does not seem unnatural to us but perhaps the same could not be said about a shirt that is modeled after a modern t-shirt.  It is that blurring of ancient ritual and orthodoxy and the modern look of business suits that throws people for a loop with the Mormons.  

The Mormons view their garment as sacred and as such a civilized society should respect that view and consider it when they talk about the garment.  But perhaps we as Mormons could speak more frankly about the garment and the deep meaning it has for us in appropriate settings and audiences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a similar thought about the picture but thought instead that perhaps as Mormons we should not be surprised or react so harshly if others post a picture of Mormon garments, if done in good taste, as I believe your intentions are here with the tallit katan.  More often than not it is not done in good taste and society at large has not come to the defense of the Mormons as they would if people paraded in front of a synagogue in New York making a complete mockery of the tallit or yarmulka.  Perhaps that will come with time.   </p>
<p>I think Mormon garments are viewed with greater suspicion than the tallit katan or other religious clothing because we do have a stronger element of &#8216;secrecy&#8217; in the way we interpret the charge to keep them sacred.  We do not have fringe sticking out or do not outwardly have other signs of orthodoxy to act as visual cues; we do not talk about it them in our meetings and people are not exposed to them visually in society.  I could have described a tallit and yarmulka when I was 6 having watched Fiddler on the Roof.  </p>
<p> I think part of the issue is also in the design, just the fact that Mormon garments take an ancient tradition and put them on clothing that has a modern look and feel, i.e. boxers and a t-shirt and not of a pattern or design that has a stronger, shall we say, artistic or ethnic touch.  The tallit katan in design and fabric still has an &#8216;ancient&#8217; look to it.  We can see Jesus wearing this same style of dress and it does not seem unnatural to us but perhaps the same could not be said about a shirt that is modeled after a modern t-shirt.  It is that blurring of ancient ritual and orthodoxy and the modern look of business suits that throws people for a loop with the Mormons.  </p>
<p>The Mormons view their garment as sacred and as such a civilized society should respect that view and consider it when they talk about the garment.  But perhaps we as Mormons could speak more frankly about the garment and the deep meaning it has for us in appropriate settings and audiences.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol Petranek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol Petranek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 02:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was raised Greek Orthodox (maiden name was Kostakos), and during one of the infrequent Sunday School classes that I attended as a child, I vividly remember the specific lessons where we learned about the vestments that the priest wears.  I recall being bored to tears and totally annoyed that we were wasting time learning about clothing, when I wanted to learn about doctrine. Only now do I understand the significance of garments and robes.  And yes, I do recall the emphasis made by the teacher that every piece of clothing worn by the priest had a special meaning, but I don&#039;t remember the details. Your recent entries referencing some Orthodox practices have me thinking that it might be interesting to do a &quot;compare and contrast&quot; between Orthodox and LDS rituals. Thank you for a thought-provoking blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was raised Greek Orthodox (maiden name was Kostakos), and during one of the infrequent Sunday School classes that I attended as a child, I vividly remember the specific lessons where we learned about the vestments that the priest wears.  I recall being bored to tears and totally annoyed that we were wasting time learning about clothing, when I wanted to learn about doctrine. Only now do I understand the significance of garments and robes.  And yes, I do recall the emphasis made by the teacher that every piece of clothing worn by the priest had a special meaning, but I don&#8217;t remember the details. Your recent entries referencing some Orthodox practices have me thinking that it might be interesting to do a &#8220;compare and contrast&#8221; between Orthodox and LDS rituals. Thank you for a thought-provoking blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryce Haymond</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryce Haymond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 00:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Ginger.  I love learning and writing about the temple.

About the picture, I wondered the same thing myself, but then I found many Jewish and other scholarly websites that also publish pictures of various tallit including the tallit katan (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hebrew4christians.com/~hebrewfo/Blessings/Daily_Blessings/Tallit_Katan/tallit_katan.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here is an example&lt;/a&gt;).  If my understanding is correct, the tallit is sacred to the Jews, but it is not withheld from public view like the Mormon garment, particularly when it is not being worn.  The fringes, or tzitzit, of the tallit will often hang down outside of the trousers in full view (as described in the classic book &lt;em&gt;The Chosen&lt;/em&gt; by Chaïm Potok).  The tallit gadol, another form of tallit, is much like a large scarf and is worn over the clothes resting on the shoulders (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.religionfacts.com/judaism/things/tallit.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;such as here&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tallit&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;and here&lt;/a&gt;).  Some observant Jews even sell the tallit katan on the internet (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tallis-n-tefillin.com/talliskatan.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;like here&lt;/a&gt;, and the Google ad that just showed up here from www.talit.com).  If I am mistaken, may someone correct me.  I do want to make sure we are always respectful of other faiths.  And of course, here we are describing and giving appreciation and respect for the Jewish practice of wearing that sacred clothing.

Thanks for your concern.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Ginger.  I love learning and writing about the temple.</p>
<p>About the picture, I wondered the same thing myself, but then I found many Jewish and other scholarly websites that also publish pictures of various tallit including the tallit katan (<a href="http://www.hebrew4christians.com/~hebrewfo/Blessings/Daily_Blessings/Tallit_Katan/tallit_katan.html" rel="nofollow">here is an example</a>).  If my understanding is correct, the tallit is sacred to the Jews, but it is not withheld from public view like the Mormon garment, particularly when it is not being worn.  The fringes, or tzitzit, of the tallit will often hang down outside of the trousers in full view (as described in the classic book <em>The Chosen</em> by Chaïm Potok).  The tallit gadol, another form of tallit, is much like a large scarf and is worn over the clothes resting on the shoulders (<a href="http://www.religionfacts.com/judaism/things/tallit.htm" rel="nofollow">such as here</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tallit" rel="nofollow">and here</a>).  Some observant Jews even sell the tallit katan on the internet (<a href="http://www.tallis-n-tefillin.com/talliskatan.html" rel="nofollow">like here</a>, and the Google ad that just showed up here from <a href="http://www.talit.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.talit.com</a>).  If I am mistaken, may someone correct me.  I do want to make sure we are always respectful of other faiths.  And of course, here we are describing and giving appreciation and respect for the Jewish practice of wearing that sacred clothing.</p>
<p>Thanks for your concern.</p>
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		<title>By: Ginger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ginger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 21:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really enjoy reading your blog, and finding new insight into the Temple and its significance.

I wonder if it is appropriate to display a picture of the Jewish sacred garment...  I know I would not be comfortable with a picture of Mormon garments on display.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really enjoy reading your blog, and finding new insight into the Temple and its significance.</p>
<p>I wonder if it is appropriate to display a picture of the Jewish sacred garment&#8230;  I know I would not be comfortable with a picture of Mormon garments on display.</p>
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