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	<title>Comments on: ABC News Reports on Mormons &amp; Temples</title>
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		<title>By: Shas Nahalin</title>
		<link>http://www.templestudy.com/2009/01/13/abc-news-reports-mormons-temples/comment-page-1/#comment-3246</link>
		<dc:creator>Shas Nahalin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 00:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I noted in this article the ever present concern of secular and some religious people about the secrecy of the temple ceremony.   I am not sure how to respond in a meaningful way to secular critics, but I stumbled on what may be a useful explanation  for our Christian and Jewish brothers.  While scanning through radio stations, I happened upon a Christian network exploring the concept of Holiness and being Holy.  It turns out the Hebrew word for &quot;holiness,&quot; &quot;kedushah&quot; (Hebrew: קדושה‎) has the connotation of &quot;separateness.&quot;  That which is holy in Judaism is set apart, and the separation is maintained by both legal and spiritual measures.

Thus Holiness to the Lord would mean set apart for or to the Lord

&quot;Sacred&quot;  comes from the Latin sacrum, which referred to god and to sacer, priest; sanctum, set apart. It was generally conceived spatially.

&quot;Holy&quot; and &quot;holiness&quot; come from 13th Century with the Old English word hālig derived from hāl meaning health, happiness and wholeness. As “wholeness”, holiness may be taken to indicate a state of religious completeness or perfection.

To properly communicate why temples are dedicated  or set apart to and for the Lord use of the Holy would help our Christian brothers.  We have, I think, relied too much on the simplistic alliteration &quot;sacred not secret&quot; to communicate what may be  more completely understood by the phrase &quot;Holiness to the Lord&quot;  as a setting apart for the Lord.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noted in this article the ever present concern of secular and some religious people about the secrecy of the temple ceremony.   I am not sure how to respond in a meaningful way to secular critics, but I stumbled on what may be a useful explanation  for our Christian and Jewish brothers.  While scanning through radio stations, I happened upon a Christian network exploring the concept of Holiness and being Holy.  It turns out the Hebrew word for &#8220;holiness,&#8221; &#8220;kedushah&#8221; (Hebrew: ק"וש"‎) has the connotation of &#8220;separateness.&#8221;  That which is holy in Judaism is set apart, and the separation is maintained by both legal and spiritual measures.</p>
<p>Thus Holiness to the Lord would mean set apart for or to the Lord</p>
<p>&#8220;Sacred&#8221;  comes from the Latin sacrum, which referred to god and to sacer, priest; sanctum, set apart. It was generally conceived spatially.</p>
<p>&#8220;Holy&#8221; and &#8220;holiness&#8221; come f<a style="padding:1px;color:#901808;text-decoration:;" href="#" onclick="linkClick('dslink_1690755695');return false;" onmouseover="linkMouseOver('dslink_1690755695');" onmouseout="linkMouseOut('dslink_1690755695');">&#114;&#111;&#109; 13</a>th Century with the Old English word hālig derived from hāl meaning health, happiness and wholeness. As "wholeness", holiness may be taken to indicate a state of religious completeness or perfection.</p>
<p>To properly communicate why temples are dedicated  or set apart to and for the Lord use of the Holy would help our Christian brothers.  We have, I think, relied too much on the simplistic alliteration &#8220;sacred not secret&#8221; to communicate what may be  more completely understood by the phrase &#8220;Holiness to the Lord&#8221;  as a setting apart for the Lord.</p>
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		<title>By: JDSage</title>
		<link>http://www.templestudy.com/2009/01/13/abc-news-reports-mormons-temples/comment-page-1/#comment-3218</link>
		<dc:creator>JDSage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The goals of the news media are not the goals of the Church, nor its leadership or members.  They are looking for an interesting story.  The wonderful news of the gospel is not, to them, an interesting story; gossip and rumors about how weird we are make great copy.  If you are ever going to read or hear or see balanced, instructive coverage of Church doctrines, history, or individuals, it will be in a Church publication -- or on the cutting-room floor.  It won&#039;t make it into mass media, because it won&#039;t sell.  Nobody will keep watching, listening, or reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The goals of the news media are not the goals of the Church, nor its leadership or members.  They are looking for an interesting story.  The wonderful news of the gospel is not, to them, an interesting story; gossip and rumors about how weird we are make great copy.  If you are ever going to read or hear or see balanced, instructive coverage of Church doctrines, history, or individuals, it will be in a Church publication &#8212; or on the cutting-room floor.  It won&#8217;t make it into mass media, because it won&#8217;t sell.  Nobody will keep watching, listening, or reading.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bryce - I hope you don&#039;t mind if I leave a couple suggestions to this post. This morning, after watching the video by ABC News about Mormons &amp; Temples, I clicked on the link to the ABC News site which featured the story, &lt;a href=&quot;http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/FaithMatters/story?id=6614455&amp;page=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mormons Open Doors to Discuss Religion&lt;/a&gt;. As I scanned through the comments to the story, I noticed that there are many who continue to insist on defining the teachings of the Church without regard to current leadership or present practices.

It would be nice to see some of the same or similar comments above left on the ABC News site. It would also be beneficial to see links - (if possible, I haven&#039;t tried it yet) - in a few of these comments back to your blog, or at least to specific posts on your blog. You have so many posts about the rich history of temple building and worship that touches upon so many religious traditions that it may assist some in putting this story into some context.

Just a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bryce &#8211; I hope you don&#8217;t mind if I leave a couple suggestions to this post. This morning, after watching the video by ABC News about Mormons &amp; Temples, I clicked on the link to the ABC News site which featured the story, <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/FaithMatters/story?id=6614455&amp;page=1" rel="nofollow">Mormons Open Doors to Discuss Religion</a>. As I scanned through the comments to the story, I noticed that there are many who continue to insist on defining the teachings of the Church without regard to current leadership or present practices.</p>
<p>It would be nice to see some of the same or similar comments above left on the ABC News site. It would also be beneficial to see links &#8211; (if possible, I haven&#8217;t tried it yet) &#8211; in a few of these comments back to your blog, or at least to specific posts on your blog. You have so many posts about the rich history of temple building and worship that touches upon so many religious traditions that it may assist some in putting this story into some context.</p>
<p>Just a thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 17:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought it was great!  I was upset at first at how they lumped the LDS and FLDS together, but then made the distinction later.  I thought the Apostles stood firm on LDS beliefs and doctrines.  I even liked Elder Ballard&#039;s comment on how able LDS people are to get things done.  For me the best wrap up was the last verse.  I think I see the LDS church becoming more and more involved and conspicuous in defending what we believe in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought it was great!  I was upset at first at how they lumped the LDS and FLDS together, but then made the distinction later.  I thought the Apostles stood firm on LDS beliefs and doctrines.  I even liked Elder Ballard&#8217;s comment on how able LDS people are to get things done.  For me the best wrap up was the last verse.  I think I see the LDS church becoming more and more involved and conspicuous in defending what we believe in.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Watson</title>
		<link>http://www.templestudy.com/2009/01/13/abc-news-reports-mormons-temples/comment-page-1/#comment-3215</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 13:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing to always remember with the major networks is that they NEVER have incentive to portray anything righteous or good in a positive light.  An editor&#039;s creedo is &quot;If it bleeds, it leads&quot; and &quot;the more controversy, the better&quot;.  News is, by definition, something new, unheard of, sensational, titilating.  People don&#039;t turn on the TV to hear good things about churches contributing to social welfare causes and the like.  They turn it on to hear the body counts and the stuff that they never expected.  At least that&#039;s what the news industry believes.

Would it really kill these reporters to just portray the Church as it is and not as a caricature of their prejudices?  It really can be done properly in 9 minutes.  Really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing to always remember with the major networks is that they NEVER have incentive to portray anything righteous or good in a positive light.  An editor&#8217;s creedo is &#8220;If it bleeds, it leads&#8221; and &#8220;the more controversy, the better&#8221;.  News is, by definition, something new, unheard of, sensational, titilating.  People don&#8217;t turn on the TV to hear good things about churches contributing to social welfare causes and the like.  They turn it on to hear the body counts and the stuff that they never expected.  At least that&#8217;s what the news industry believes.</p>
<p>Would it really kill these reporters to just portray the Church as it is and not as a caricature of their prejudices?  It really can be done properly in 9 minutes.  Really.</p>
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		<title>By: BLM</title>
		<link>http://www.templestudy.com/2009/01/13/abc-news-reports-mormons-temples/comment-page-1/#comment-3214</link>
		<dc:creator>BLM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 07:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that Elder Ballard&#039;s desire to present our doctrine, our history, and our beliefs to the world is very legitimate.   He doesn&#039;t want the church to be misunderstood.  However,  it&#039;s sad that so much of the interview with the Elders was spliced and shorted by reporters and editors.   Regardless of Elder Ballard&#039;s wishes he still wasn&#039;t able to tell the mission and purpose of the church.  I find that very ironic.  How much the public saw of Elder Ballard and Elder Cook&#039;s  message was  determined by reporters and editors.   

I agree with Geoff B.   Why even mention the FLDS?   What was the point in doing that?  I thought the purpose of the interview was to dispel the &quot;myths&quot; of Mormonism.    It seem like they were trying to maintain speculations.  Also, I felt the introductory to the interview was a bit awkward.  Where the anchor mention that the Mormon church is now opening the &quot;doors in attempted to dispel some of the myths surrounding their faith&quot;.   This as always bothered me because we have 50,000 to 60,000 missionaries throughout the world and 13 million members who share the gospel.   The church has been sending missionaries throughout the world since the 1830&#039;s.  I feel the church has always been opening the &quot;doors&quot; to others, people aren&#039;t just listening.

Overall,  the interview was better than many others.  Eventually the church will get it&#039;s message to all the world because the scriptures say that none will be left with excuse.  

To better understand doctrinally why the church supported Prop 8,  I recommend Elder Oaks&#039;s talk entitled, &quot;Same-Gender Attraction&quot;.   Read the 11 Gospel Doctrines he outlines  and ask yourself,  how would those doctrines be maintained if the church supported and allowed gay marriage?  For example, Elder Oaks mentions, &quot;The purpose of mortal life and the mission of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is to prepare the sons and daughters of God for their destiny—to become like our heavenly parents&quot;.   How would supporting gay marriage prepare God&#039;s children for their destiny-to become like our heavenly parents?  It wouldn&#039;t.  In fact, it would be contrary to it&#039;s purpose.  It&#039;s an interested exercise which I recommend to do.  The church isn&#039;t picking on anyone.  It&#039;s defending the gospel of Christ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that Elder Ballard&#8217;s desire to present our doctrine, our history, and our beliefs to the world is very legitimate.   He doesn&#8217;t want the church to be misunderstood.  However,  it&#8217;s sad that so much of the interview with the Elders was spliced and shorted by reporters and editors.   Regardless of Elder Ballard&#8217;s wishes he still wasn&#8217;t able to tell the mission and purpose of the church.  I find that very ironic.  How much the public saw of Elder Ballard and Elder Cook&#8217;s  message was  determined by reporters and editors.   </p>
<p>I agree with Geoff B.   Why even mention the FLDS?   What was the point in doing that?  I thought the purpose of the interview was to dispel the &#8220;myths&#8221; of Mormonism.    It seem like they were trying to maintain speculations.  Also, I felt the introductory to the interview was a bit awkward.  Where the anchor mention that the Mormon church is now opening the &#8220;doors in attempted to dispel some of the myths surrounding their faith&#8221;.   This as always bothered me because we have 50,000 to 60,000 missionaries throughout the world and 13 million members who share the gospel.   The church has been sending missionaries throughout the world since the 1830&#8242;s.  I feel the church has always been opening the &#8220;doors&#8221; to others, people aren&#8217;t just listening.</p>
<p>Overall,  the interview was better than many others.  Eventually the church will get it&#8217;s message to all the world because the scriptures say that none will be left with excuse.  </p>
<p>To better understand doctrinally why the church supported Prop 8,  I recommend Elder Oaks&#8217;s talk entitled, &#8220;Same-Gender Attraction&#8221;.   Read the 11 Gospel Doctrines he outlines  and ask yourself,  how would those doctrines be maintained if the church supported and allowed gay marriage?  For example, Elder Oaks mentions, &#8220;The purpose of mortal life and the mission of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is to prepare the sons and daughters of God for their destiny--to become like our heavenly parents&#8221;.   How would supporting gay marriage prepare God&#8217;s children for their destiny-to become like our heavenly parents?  It wouldn&#8217;t.  In fact, it would be contrary to it&#8217;s purpose.  It&#8217;s an interested exercise which I recommend to do.  The church isn&#8217;t picking on anyone.  It&#8217;s defending the gospel of Christ.</p>
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		<title>By: dona hessling</title>
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		<dc:creator>dona hessling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 05:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the report was quite fair.  The reporter, however, wasn&#039;t very convinced because at the beginning of the program and before the interview, he still referred the polygamists in Texas as &quot;Mormons&quot;.

In my opinion  Elders Ballard and Cook  did not expresse clear enough  that the teachings of the Church concerning marriage between man and woman are not only teachings of the Church but comes from God through revelation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the report was quite fair.  The reporter, however, wasn&#8217;t very convinced because at the beginning of the program and before the interview, he still referred the polygamists in Texas as &#8220;Mormons&#8221;.</p>
<p>In my opinion  Elders Ballard and Cook  did not expresse clear enough  that the teachings of the Church concerning marriage between man and woman are not only teachings of the Church but comes from God through revelation.</p>
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		<title>By: Hans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Related to this story, I was commuting to work here in Austin a few days ago and listening to NPR. Apparently they had been invited as well for a radio tour of the temple. It, like the ABC interview, was spliced to fit into its time slot, but of most interest to me was how Elders Ballard and Cook sounded when my mind was in non-General Conference mode. 

Overall, the report was quite balanced and described some of the rooms in the temple. It didn&#039;t spend a lot of time on Prop 8 but stuck to the purpose for which the reporters had come. The only thing that didn&#039;t seem to sit well with me was the way the Elders seemed to talk to the reporter, or in other words, as if he understood words like &quot;baptistry&quot; or &quot;sealed for time and all eternity&quot;. For some reason it sort of rubbed me the wrong way and I can&#039;t put my finger on why. Perhaps I was hoping that these terms, which make sense to us, would have been adjusted for the layman like President Hickley was able to do or at least clarify. Or I am just too sensitive about it. 

I just came away with the distinct impression that a person listening to NPR whose only knowledge about the Church was about Prop 8 listened and it was a wasted opportunity to clarify exactly what really happens in a temple to an audience who will probably never hear it from someone so official. Maybe I&#039;m just too sensitive about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Related to this story, I was commuting to work here in Austin a few days ago and listening to NPR. Apparently they had been invited as well for a radio tour of the temple. It, like the ABC interview, was spliced to fit into its time slot, but of most interest to me was how Elders Ballard and Cook sounded when my mind was in non-General Conference mode. </p>
<p>Overall, the report was quite balanced and described some of the rooms in the temple. It didn&#8217;t spend a lot of time on Prop 8 but stuck to the purpose for which the reporters had come. The only thing that didn&#8217;t seem to sit well with me was the way the Elders seemed to talk to the reporter, or in other words, as if he understood words like &#8220;baptistry&#8221; or &#8220;sealed for time and all eternity&#8221;. For some reason it sort of rubbed me the wrong way and I can&#8217;t put my finger on why. Perhaps I was hoping that these terms, which make sense to us, would have been adjusted for the layman like President Hickley was able to do or at least clarify. Or I am just too sensitive about it. </p>
<p>I just came away with the distinct impression that a person listening to NPR whose only knowledge about the Church was about Prop 8 listened and it was a wasted opportunity to clarify exactly what really happens in a temple to an audience who will probably never hear it from someone so official. Maybe I&#8217;m just too sensitive about that.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 01:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know there is a lot of misunderstanding among some groups regarding the FLDS, but even airing pictures of them during a report on our church, much less REPEATEDLY airing pictures of them, is ridiculous.  If ABC were doing a story on modern-day Judaism, would they include pieces on break-away sects from Judaism that have nothing to do with the modern group?  I think not.

Overall, the story was better than some, however.  I agree the Church did not get an opportunity to defend itself on Prop. 8 the way it could have, but that&#039;s to be expected with these types of reports.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know there is a lot of misunderstanding among some groups regarding the FLDS, but even airing pictures of them during a report on our church, much less REPEATEDLY airing pictures of them, is ridiculous.  If ABC were doing a story on modern-day Judaism, would they include pieces on break-away sects from Judaism that have nothing to do with the modern group?  I think not.</p>
<p>Overall, the story was better than some, however.  I agree the Church did not get an opportunity to defend itself on Prop. 8 the way it could have, but that&#8217;s to be expected with these types of reports.</p>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Calling the Church the Mormon Church is so wrong. Does the Church belong to Mormon or Jesus Christ? Besides the constant use of the term Mormon Church it was a fairly balanced report about the Church. As a &#039;fundamentalist&#039; I hope that the media corrects the name of the Church to the true name and stops demeaning the Church that Jesus Christ set up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calling the Church the Mormon Church is so wrong. Does the Church belong to Mormon or Jesus Christ? Besides the constant use of the term Mormon Church it was a fairly balanced report about the Church. As a &#8216;fundamentalist&#8217; I hope that the media corrects the name of the Church to the true name and stops demeaning the Church that Jesus Christ set up.</p>
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