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	<title>Comments on: Gremiale &#8211; An Apron-like Catholic Liturgical Vestment</title>
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		<title>By: Gremial and Communion Rail Veils &#171; The Altar Guild Resource for the Diocese of Rhode Island</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gremial and Communion Rail Veils &#171; The Altar Guild Resource for the Diocese of Rhode Island</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 05:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] including a photo of Pope Benedict wearing a silk one at this link.  Very interesting reading. -http://www.templestudy.com/2009/03/20/gremiale-apronlike-catholic-liturgical-vestment/comment-page-1...I have seen the substitution of a large amice at Confirmation in place of the gremial in several [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] including a photo of Pope Benedict wearing a silk one at this link.  Very interesting reading. -http://www.templestudy.com/2009/03/20/gremiale-apronlike-catholic-liturgical-vestment/comment-page-1&#8230;I have seen the substitution of a large amice at Confirmation in place of the gremial in several [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bryce Haymond</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryce Haymond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 17:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is another good example from Eastern Orthodox monasticism:
http://www.sestry.ru/eng/image?my_img=1115</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is another good example from Eastern Orthodox monasticism:<br />
<a href="http://www.sestry.ru/eng/image?my_img=1115" rel="nofollow">http://www.sestry.ru/eng/image?my_img=1115</a></p>
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		<title>By: Floyd the Wonderdog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Floyd the Wonderdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 11:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the skull and bones on the Masonic apron represented those of Hiram Abiff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the skull and bones on the Masonic apron represented those of Hiram Abiff.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew B. Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew B. Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 00:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you take a close look at the picture of the eastern orthodox apron that I linked to above you will notice that there are two crosses on its shoulder pieces. These crosses correspond to the two engraved stones placed on the shoulder straps of the Israelite ephod/apron (see Exodus 28:12; the breastplate containing the Urim and Thummim was secured between the straps). It therefore appears that orthodox Christian monks are wearing an item of apparel somewhat akin to what was worn by the temple priests of ancient Israel. Since the king of ancient Israel also wore an ephod/apron (see 2 Samuel 6:14; 1 Chronicles 15:27) and the king was equated with Adam (see Psalm 72 and Psalm 89) – and Adam was a king (see Genesis 1:26) – the question naturally arises about whether there was some type of connection between the ephod/apron that the Israelite king wore and the kind of apron worn by king Adam (see Genesis 3:7).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you take a close look at the picture of the eastern orthodox apron that I linked to above you will notice that there are two crosses on its shoulder pieces. These crosses correspond to the two engraved stones placed on the shoulder straps of the Israelite ephod/apron (see <a style="padding:1px;color:#901808;text-decoration:;" href="#" onclick="linkClick('dslink_1090742212');return false;" onmouseover="linkMouseOver('dslink_1090742212');" onmouseout="linkMouseOut('dslink_1090742212');">&#69;&#120;&#111;&#100;&#117;&#115; 28:12</a>; the breastplate containing the Urim and Thummim was secured between the straps). It therefore appears that orthodox Christian monks are wearing an item of apparel somewhat akin to what was worn by the temple priests of ancient Israel. Since the king of ancient Israel also wore an ephod/apron (see <a style="padding:1px;color:#901808;text-decoration:;" href="#" onclick="linkClick('dslink_1700176087');return false;" onmouseover="linkMouseOver('dslink_1700176087');" onmouseout="linkMouseOut('dslink_1700176087');">2 &#83;&#97;&#109;&#117;&#101;&#108; 6:14</a>; <a style="padding:1px;color:#901808;text-decoration:;" href="#" onclick="linkClick('dslink_1918086971');return false;" onmouseover="linkMouseOver('dslink_1918086971');" onmouseout="linkMouseOut('dslink_1918086971');">1 &#67;&#104;&#114;&#111;&#110;&#105;&#99;&#108;&#101;&#115; 15:27</a>) and the king was equated with Adam (see Psalm 72 and Psalm 89) - and Adam was a king (see <a style="padding:1px;color:#901808;text-decoration:;" href="#" onclick="linkClick('dslink_196041978');return false;" onmouseover="linkMouseOver('dslink_196041978');" onmouseout="linkMouseOut('dslink_196041978');">&#71;&#101;&#110;&#101;&#115;&#105;&#115; 1:26</a>) - the question naturally arises about whether there was some type of connection between the ephod/apron that the Israelite king wore and the kind of apron worn by king Adam (see <a style="padding:1px;color:#901808;text-decoration:;" href="#" onclick="linkClick('dslink_124647449');return false;" onmouseover="linkMouseOver('dslink_124647449');" onmouseout="linkMouseOut('dslink_124647449');">&#71;&#101;&#110;&#101;&#115;&#105;&#115; 3:7</a>).</p>
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		<title>By: David Larsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post! You have done some wonderful research here! Matthew Brown probably mentions this in his article, but the Old Testament priestly ephod was supposed to be an apron-like vestment (sometimes described as gold in color) that the high priest wore. The ephod was a symbol of priestly authority.  The ephod was also connected to revelation somehow (1 Sam 30:7-8; cf. Judg 18:5), likely because it had some connection to the Urim and Thummim.  It is interesting that in the OT, not only the high priest, but also prophets, kings, and judges (like Gideon) are mentioned as using this ephod. 
Again, wonderful post! Its neat to see how long this tradition has carried on.

David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post! You have done some wonderful research here! Matthew Brown probably mentions this in his article, but the Old Testament priestly ephod was supposed to be an apron-like vestment (sometimes described as gold in color) that the high priest wore. The ephod was a symbol of priestly authority.  The ephod was also connected to revelation somehow (1 Sam 30:7-8; cf. <a style="padding:1px;color:#901808;text-decoration:;" href="#" onclick="linkClick('dslink_214348955');return false;" onmouseover="linkMouseOver('dslink_214348955');" onmouseout="linkMouseOut('dslink_214348955');">&#74;&#117;&#100;&#103; 18:5</a>), likely because it had some connection to the Urim and Thummim.  It is interesting that in the OT, not only the high priest, but also prophets, kings, and judges (like Gideon) are mentioned as using this ephod.<br />
Again, wonderful post! Its neat to see how long this tradition has carried on.</p>
<p>David</p>
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		<title>By: Bryce Haymond</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryce Haymond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Br. Brown, thank you for the references!  Fantastic!  I looked up the reference in Mount Athos, and it is very interesting indeed:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Only great schema monks may wear the full habit, which includes an &lt;b&gt;elaborately embroidered apron&lt;/b&gt; or stole with numerous crosses and Greek acronyms picked out in red - beginning with M[ichael] and G[abriel] and ending with the skull and cross-bones of Adam at the foot of the cross over the words &#039;T[opos] K[ranious] [the place of the skull, i.e. Golgotha] P[aradeisos] G[egonen] [has become Paradise]&#039;.  This garment symbolizes the cross that the monk takes up when he vows to follow Christ.  Great schema monks undertake to accept for themselves the cross and death of Christ and take stricter vows than other monks with regard to prayer and fasting.  Initiates go through a ceremony similar to that for the small schema but of longer duration and more solemn tone. (Speake, Graham. Mount Athos: Renewal in Paradise. New Haven, Conn: Yale University Press, 2004. 212-13. &lt;a href=&quot;http://books.google.com/books?id=J6bxIhNMRn0C&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;dq=Mount+Athos+speake&amp;ei=mUTFSfz3LoyokASTr9X_DQ#PPA212,M1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Link&lt;/a&gt;.)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Thanks for the reference to the Wikipedia article too, which shows an illustration of this vestment.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.conventofsaintelizabeth.org/apparel/Schema.gif&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt; is another illustration.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.saintelias.com/foto/big/megaloskhimos.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt; is a photo of one, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://media.photobucket.com/image/Analavos/solekat205/the%20crescat/romanianschema-monk.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;another&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.orthodoxphotos.com/Various_Photos/Monks_and_Nuns/20.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;another&lt;/a&gt;.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.istok.net/images/P/ve-988.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This&lt;/a&gt; is another clearer photo, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.riznitca.com/ens/products_pictures/p2.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.

It appears that this vestment is similar to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scapular&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;scapular&lt;/a&gt; - &quot;Monastic scapulars originated as aprons worn by medieval monks, and were later extended to habits for members of religious organizations, orders or confraternities... many sources agree that the scapular emerged from an apron-like piece of cloth worn by monks... Some authors interpret the scapular as a &lt;i&gt;symbolic&lt;/i&gt; apron based on the fact that monks and nuns, when engaged on some manual labor, tend to cover it with a protective apron or carefully tuck it up or throw the front length back over their shoulder to prevent it from getting in the way.&quot;

Val Brinkerhoff showed me a rare photo of Joseph Smith&#039;s masonic apron just last week, and it looked similar to &lt;a href=&quot;http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/art/washington_apron01.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;George Washington&#039;s&lt;/a&gt;.  It seems that both share elements such as instruments, and both clearly also show the skull and crossbones representing Adam at the bottom.

I&#039;ve thought for a long time that the Eastern Orthodox tradition has some of the most striking resemblances to the LDS.  Why that is, I&#039;m not sure, but I love to learn more about them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Br. Brown, thank you for the references!  Fantastic!  I looked up the reference in Mount Athos, and it is very interesting indeed:</p>
<blockquote><p>Only great schema monks may wear the full habit, which includes an <b>elaborately embroidered apron</b> or stole with numerous crosses and Greek acronyms picked out in red &#8211; beginning with M[ichael] and G[abriel] and ending with the skull and cross-bones of Adam at the foot of the cross over the words &#8216;T[opos] K[ranious] [the place of the skull, i.e. Golgotha] P[aradeisos] G[egonen] [has become Paradise]&#8216;.  This garment symbolizes the cross that the monk takes up when he vows to follow Christ.  Great schema monks undertake to accept for themselves the cross and death of Christ and take stricter vows than other monks with regard to prayer and fasting.  Initiates go through a ceremony similar to that for the small schema but of longer duration and more solemn tone. (Speake, Graham. Mount Athos: Renewal in Paradise. New Haven, Conn: Yale University Press, 2004. 212-13. <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=J6bxIhNMRn0C&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;dq=Mount+Athos+speake&amp;ei=mUTFSfz3LoyokASTr9X_DQ#PPA212,M1" rel="nofollow">Link</a>.)</p></blockquote>
<p>Thanks for the reference to the Wikipedia article too, which shows an illustration of this vestment.  <a href="http://www.conventofsaintelizabeth.org/apparel/Schema.gif" rel="nofollow">Here</a> is another illustration.  <a href="http://www.saintelias.com/foto/big/megaloskhimos.jpg" rel="nofollow">Here</a> is a photo of one, and <a href="http://media.photobucket.com/image/Analavos/solekat205/the%20crescat/romanianschema-monk.jpg" rel="nofollow">another</a>, and <a href="http://www.orthodoxphotos.com/Various_Photos/Monks_and_Nuns/20.jpg" rel="nofollow">another</a>.  <a href="http://www.istok.net/images/P/ve-988.jpg" rel="nofollow">This</a> is another clearer photo, and <a href="http://www.riznitca.com/ens/products_pictures/p2.jpg" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
<p>It appears that this vestment is similar to the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scapular" rel="nofollow">scapular</a> &#8211; &#8220;Monastic scapulars originated as aprons worn by medieval monks, and were later extended to habits for members of religious organizations, orders or confraternities&#8230; many sources agree that the scapular emerged from an apron-like piece of cloth worn by monks&#8230; Some authors interpret the scapular as a <i>symbolic</i> apron based on the fact that monks and nuns, when engaged on some manual labor, tend to cover it with a protective apron or carefully tuck it up or throw the front length back over their shoulder to prevent it from getting in the way.&#8221;</p>
<p>Val Brinkerhoff showed me a rare photo of Joseph Smith&#8217;s masonic apron just last week, and it looked similar to <a href="http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/art/washington_apron01.jpg" rel="nofollow">George Washington&#8217;s</a>.  It seems that both share elements such as instruments, and both clearly also show the skull and crossbones representing Adam at the bottom.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve thought for a long time that the Eastern Orthodox tradition has some of the most striking resemblances to the LDS.  Why that is, I&#8217;m not sure, but I love to learn more about them.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew B. Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew B. Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You might want to compare the center symbols on Juan&#039;s gremial with those on the &quot;elaborately embroidered apron&quot; given to some eastern orthodox monks when they are initiated into higher orders. This apron includes an acronym for Paradise and the word &quot;Adam.&quot; 

Graham Speake, Mount Athos, 212-13; Wikipedia article on &quot;Great Schema&quot; / &quot;Degrees of Eastern Orthodox Monasticism&quot; -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Schema#Great_Schema

Then compare the symbols found on monastic aprons with those that decorate the aprons of the Freemasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might want to compare the center symbols on Juan&#8217;s gremial with those on the &#8220;elaborately embroidered apron&#8221; given to some eastern orthodox monks when they are initiated into higher orders. This apron includes an acronym for Paradise and the word &#8220;Adam.&#8221; </p>
<p>Graham Speake, Mount Athos, 212-13; Wikipedia article on &#8220;Great Schema&#8221; / &#8220;Degrees of Eastern Orthodox Monasticism&#8221; &#8212; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Schema#Great_Schema" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Schema#Great_Schema</a></p>
<p>Then compare the symbols found on monastic aprons with those that decorate the aprons of the Freemasons.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 02:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent article, I find stuff like this fascinating. I really enjoy symbolism and the study of what could be considered &#039;doctrinal debris&#039; among the different religions of the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent article, I find stuff like this fascinating. I really enjoy symbolism and the study of what could be considered &#8216;doctrinal debris&#8217; among the different religions of the world.</p>
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		<title>By: S.Faux</title>
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		<dc:creator>S.Faux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 22:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Bryce.

You have a real talent for finding subtle pieces of information, and your this post should remind us that we LDS need to be more literate in comparative religion, especially in knowing more about the practices and tradtions of our &quot;other&quot; Christian brothers and sisters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Bryce.</p>
<p>You have a real talent for finding subtle pieces of information, and your this post should remind us that we LDS need to be more literate in comparative religion, especially in knowing more about the practices and tradtions of our &#8220;other&#8221; Christian brothers and sisters.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryce Haymond</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryce Haymond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should also note that the gremiale of Archbishop Juan de Zumárranga is said to have a &quot;decorative &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3Afoliate&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;foliate&lt;/a&gt; design&quot; surrounding the shield in the center.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should also note that the gremiale of Archbishop Juan de Zumárranga is said to have a &#8220;decorative <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3Afoliate" rel="nofollow">foliate</a> design&#8221; surrounding the shield in the center.</p>
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