Comments on: Mosaic Tabernacle as an Aaronic Temple http://www.templestudy.com/2009/04/12/mosaic-tabernacle-aaronic-temple/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=mosaic-tabernacle-aaronic-temple Fri, 10 Feb 2012 05:33:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: David Larsen http://www.templestudy.com/2009/04/12/mosaic-tabernacle-aaronic-temple/comment-page-1/#comment-4795 David Larsen Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:56:12 +0000 http://www.templestudy.com/?p=1587#comment-4795 Some authors have made a connection between the "asherah" that King Josiah removed from the temple during his reforms and the original menorah. The Hebrew word "asherah" is usually translated in our bible as "grove." This "stylized tree" was supposed to have been in the Holy of Holies (not in the Great Hall of the temple, as the menorah was in later periods). The asherah is thought to have represented the Tree of Life, and was lit up by burning olive oil, symbolizing the idea that the Tree was fiery. Perhaps it looked much like the menorah of the Second Temple, but it may have looked even more like a tree. Representations that are available are of the menorah of the Second Temple, not that of Solomon's Temple. Some authors have made a connection between the “asherah” that King Josiah removed from the temple during his reforms and the original menorah. The Hebrew word “asherah” is usually translated in our bible as “grove.” This “stylized tree” was supposed to have been in the Holy of Holies (not in the Great Hall of the temple, as the menorah was in later periods). The asherah is thought to have represented the Tree of Life, and was lit up by burning olive oil, symbolizing the idea that the Tree was fiery. Perhaps it looked much like the menorah of the Second Temple, but it may have looked even more like a tree. Representations that are available are of the menorah of the Second Temple, not that of Solomon’s Temple.

]]> By: Bryce Haymond http://www.templestudy.com/2009/04/12/mosaic-tabernacle-aaronic-temple/comment-page-1/#comment-4793 Bryce Haymond Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:11:09 +0000 http://www.templestudy.com/?p=1587#comment-4793 No one really knows what the original Tabernacle menorah looked like. One of the best known representations of what the menorah might have looked like is captured on the Arch of Titus in Rome: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menorah_%28Temple%29 No one really knows what the original Tabernacle menorah looked like. One of the best known representations of what the menorah might have looked like is captured on the Arch of Titus in Rome:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menorah_%28Temple%29

]]> By: Ed & Shirley http://www.templestudy.com/2009/04/12/mosaic-tabernacle-aaronic-temple/comment-page-1/#comment-4791 Ed & Shirley Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:45:15 +0000 http://www.templestudy.com/?p=1587#comment-4791 This is just what we were looking for. I am looking for a picture of the original Tabernacle Menorah? This is just what we were looking for. I am looking for a picture of the original Tabernacle Menorah?

]]> By: Jennifer http://www.templestudy.com/2009/04/12/mosaic-tabernacle-aaronic-temple/comment-page-1/#comment-4147 Jennifer Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:17:18 +0000 http://www.templestudy.com/?p=1587#comment-4147 Just an additional idea on the mitre mentioned above. I have always preferred to think of it as the "round cap" and not the turban for one major reason. If we examine Exodus 29:6, it speaks of the crown placed upon the mitre. I can imagine a crown being placed upon a flat mitre, but not as much on a turban. It helps me fully appreciate even more the plan of salvation. Regardless of the specifics, though, what beautiful temple imagery to know that one day, through righteousness, we can expect a crown to be placed on our heads. Just an additional idea on the mitre mentioned above. I have always preferred to think of it as the “round cap” and not the turban for one major reason. If we examine Exodus 29:6, it speaks of the crown placed upon the mitre. I can imagine a crown being placed upon a flat mitre, but not as much on a turban. It helps me fully appreciate even more the plan of salvation.

Regardless of the specifics, though, what beautiful temple imagery to know that one day, through righteousness, we can expect a crown to be placed on our heads.

]]> By: Greg R http://www.templestudy.com/2009/04/12/mosaic-tabernacle-aaronic-temple/comment-page-1/#comment-3698 Greg R Sun, 17 May 2009 23:30:27 +0000 http://www.templestudy.com/?p=1587#comment-3698 Bryce, I stumbled across your site today, from what I have seen so far it is very nicely done. I share your passion on the temple and am also not a scholar but have read as much as I possible can on the subject. I was able to take Nibley, Parry and Steve Ricks though while at BYU. They were wonderful. Surprisingly my bishop asked me to teach a 5th sunday lesson this month on the temple. I am headed down a similar path but with a couple of twists. My twists are below... I believe that Israels journey to the promised land represents man's journey back to God (Temple Journey). Most my twist on Ancient Israel is going to be based on 1Cor 10. I compare the following... a. Egypt as sin or telestial kingdom We also live in sin and bondage until we are born again b. Waters of red sea and cloud of fire as baptism and holy ghost, Lamb’s blood on the door posts as the blood of Christ. Passing through the water is like baptism, it covers up our sins in this case the Egyptian army. We are led by a cloud of fire or the holy ghost After we are born again we enter into a time of sanctification for Israel it was the desert c. Bread (manna) and water (from rock) as sacrament d. Tests and trials as fiery serpents – must look to Christ to live… also I think the serpent on the pole represents the tree of life e. Over come our lusts for (of) quail (flesh) f. Ultimately the desert of sanctification is the terrestrial kingdom g. Waters of Jordan river are parted like the veil of the temple h. Angel on other side of veil as the Lord i. Promised land as celestial kingdom I believe that one of the points about the temple is that it also represents man’s journey back to God. We pass through the telestial kingdom and the terrestrial kingdom making covenants and receiving ordinances that will move us on to the next section of our lives. I’m a little less bold than to talk about as you say things like “the filled hand” in such a big audience but do like to discuss such things in smaller settings. I used to be bolder when I was younger. Thanks again for a very nice site. Bryce,
I stumbled across your site today, from what I have seen so far it is very nicely done. I share your passion on the temple and am also not a scholar but have read as much as I possible can on the subject. I was able to take Nibley, Parry and Steve Ricks though while at BYU. They were wonderful.

Surprisingly my bishop asked me to teach a 5th sunday lesson this month on the temple. I am headed down a similar path but with a couple of twists. My twists are below…
I believe that Israels journey to the promised land represents man’s journey back to God (Temple Journey). Most my twist on Ancient Israel is going to be based on 1Cor 10.

I compare the following…
a. Egypt as sin or telestial kingdom
We also live in sin and bondage until we are born again

b. Waters of red sea and cloud of fire as baptism and holy ghost, Lamb's blood on the door posts as the blood of Christ.
Passing through the water is like baptism, it covers up our sins in this case the Egyptian army. We are led by a cloud of fire or the holy ghost

After we are born again we enter into a time of sanctification for Israel it was the desert
c. Bread (manna) and water (from rock) as sacrament
d. Tests and trials as fiery serpents - must look to Christ to live... also I think the serpent on the pole represents the tree of life
e. Over come our lusts for (of) quail (flesh)
f. Ultimately the desert of sanctification is the terrestrial kingdom
g. Waters of Jordan river are parted like the veil of the temple
h. Angel on other side of veil as the Lord
i. Promised land as celestial kingdom

I believe that one of the points about the temple is that it also represents man's journey back to God. We pass through the telestial kingdom and the terrestrial kingdom making covenants and receiving ordinances that will move us on to the next section of our lives.

I'm a little less bold than to talk about as you say things like "the filled hand" in such a big audience but do like to discuss such things in smaller settings. I used to be bolder when I was younger.

Thanks again for a very nice site.

]]> By: Helen Brower http://www.templestudy.com/2009/04/12/mosaic-tabernacle-aaronic-temple/comment-page-1/#comment-3645 Helen Brower Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:27:15 +0000 http://www.templestudy.com/?p=1587#comment-3645 Oh! That is fantastic news!! Thank you! Oh! That is fantastic news!! Thank you!

]]> By: Bryce Haymond http://www.templestudy.com/2009/04/12/mosaic-tabernacle-aaronic-temple/comment-page-1/#comment-3644 Bryce Haymond Mon, 27 Apr 2009 13:30:47 +0000 http://www.templestudy.com/?p=1587#comment-3644 Hi Helen, Thank you for the kind compliment. There are many traditions and sources which speak of the "garments of light." For some of them you could try John Tvedtnes article "Priestly Clothing in Bible Times" in <em>Temples of the Ancient World</em>, or Donald W. Parry's article "The Garment of Adam in Jewish, Muslim, and Christian Tradition" in the same book. There is also Nibley's "Sacred Vestments" in <em>Temple and Cosmos</em>. They all speak extensively on this subject, and it is very fascinating. Hi Helen,

Thank you for the kind compliment. There are many traditions and sources which speak of the “garments of light.” For some of them you could try John Tvedtnes article “Priestly Clothing in Bible Times” in Temples of the Ancient World, or Donald W. Parry’s article “The Garment of Adam in Jewish, Muslim, and Christian Tradition” in the same book. There is also Nibley’s “Sacred Vestments” in Temple and Cosmos. They all speak extensively on this subject, and it is very fascinating.

]]> By: Helen Brower http://www.templestudy.com/2009/04/12/mosaic-tabernacle-aaronic-temple/comment-page-1/#comment-3642 Helen Brower Mon, 27 Apr 2009 04:53:50 +0000 http://www.templestudy.com/?p=1587#comment-3642 I have been following your blog/site for a few months now and have been impressed with the amount of accurate information you display. Thank you. I wondered if you could help me with a reference problem I've been having. I went to a lecture at BYU education week last fall and recall hearing about a "garment of light" which was worn by Adam and Eve before the Fall. This garment of light was taken away when they transgressed and therefore "they were found naked" and the need for a new garment to replace the one they lost was given to them - as a place holder and protection to them until they had proven themselves worthy to receive their garment of light in the next life according to the covenants they made. It is just as we make covenants in this life within the temple, those blessings promised to us cannot be fulfilled unless we prove ourselves worthy. In the next life, those blessings will be realized upon us. Have you heard of this and if you have, where can I find the reference to this doctrine? Thanks so much! If all else fails, I will wait until the next BYU education week and try to corner the lecturer to find the reference. I have been following your blog/site for a few months now and have been impressed with the amount of accurate information you display. Thank you.
I wondered if you could help me with a reference problem I’ve been having. I went to a lecture at BYU education week last fall and recall hearing about a “garment of light” which was worn by Adam and Eve before the Fall. This garment of light was taken away when they transgressed and therefore “they were found naked” and the need for a new garment to replace the one they lost was given to them – as a place holder and protection to them until they had proven themselves worthy to receive their garment of light in the next life according to the covenants they made. It is just as we make covenants in this life within the temple, those blessings promised to us cannot be fulfilled unless we prove ourselves worthy. In the next life, those blessings will be realized upon us.
Have you heard of this and if you have, where can I find the reference to this doctrine?
Thanks so much! If all else fails, I will wait until the next BYU education week and try to corner the lecturer to find the reference.

]]> By: David http://www.templestudy.com/2009/04/12/mosaic-tabernacle-aaronic-temple/comment-page-1/#comment-3584 David Tue, 14 Apr 2009 19:49:45 +0000 http://www.templestudy.com/?p=1587#comment-3584 You said, "I am still not sure about the passing down of the keys of the Melchizedek Priesthood, though. Did Elijah not have the keys of the priesthood? How did Samuel anoint King David as king and Melchizedek priest if he did not have keys?" I said they weren't passed down through Aaron. I didn't say they were never on the earth. Remember, Moses still held the keys, even though he was translated. And I'm sure there were other Translated being who may have been authorized to bestow priesthood as well. When there are no authorized Priesthood Key holders on the earth, authority has been known to have bestowed by heavenly messengers. This is what I believe happened. You said, “I am still not sure about the passing down of the keys of the Melchizedek Priesthood, though. Did Elijah not have the keys of the priesthood? How did Samuel anoint King David as king and Melchizedek priest if he did not have keys?”

I said they weren’t passed down through Aaron. I didn’t say they were never on the earth. Remember, Moses still held the keys, even though he was translated. And I’m sure there were other Translated being who may have been authorized to bestow priesthood as well. When there are no authorized Priesthood Key holders on the earth, authority has been known to have bestowed by heavenly messengers. This is what I believe happened.

]]> By: Inthedoghouse http://www.templestudy.com/2009/04/12/mosaic-tabernacle-aaronic-temple/comment-page-1/#comment-3583 Inthedoghouse Tue, 14 Apr 2009 19:08:40 +0000 http://www.templestudy.com/?p=1587#comment-3583 Thank you for this great post. I love studying the Old Testament and the temple sybolism contained therein. I was wondering why you believe that Aaron was dressed any differently than his sons. Could it be possible that the different clothing (white linen) was worn by anyone officiating as the High Priest, who changed his clothes to the white linen only one time of year, when he officiated on The Day of Atonement (Lev. 16) and entered into the Holy Place. This change of clothing as one enters into a different "level" is still symbolic today. What do you think? Also, thank you for posting the quote by McConkie. I love the thought that Aaron held the Melchizedek priesthood, it makes so much more sense in all that was done in the tabernacle. Perhaps understand the "no man shall see the face of God and live" quote... we need to understand how the Children of Israel viewed death. They viewed it as one of Satan's lies. Think about it... it really is a lie, because we do not die we move on to the next estate. This was a great testimonial that they believed in eternal exsistence. Now, when we understand that they did not believe death was real... the word to die might have held a different meaning to them. Those who previously saw the face of God did "die" as to this world... they were translated. Perhaps they were referring to the ability they had to stay in this estate once they were being personally tutored by God??? Those who saw the face of God simply progressed further still... and ultimately were "taken" to live with him in Zion.... The Children of Israel needed to stay here so that the covenant with Abraham could be fulfilled... sort of like Noah....Does that make sense? Great research and information.. thanks for sharing. Thank you for this great post. I love studying the Old Testament and the temple sybolism contained therein. I was wondering why you believe that Aaron was dressed any differently than his sons. Could it be possible that the different clothing (white linen) was worn by anyone officiating as the High Priest, who changed his clothes to the white linen only one time of year, when he officiated on The Day of Atonement (Lev. 16) and entered into the Holy Place. This change of clothing as one enters into a different “level” is still symbolic today. What do you think?

Also, thank you for posting the quote by McConkie. I love the thought that Aaron held the Melchizedek priesthood, it makes so much more sense in all that was done in the tabernacle.

Perhaps understand the “no man shall see the face of God and live” quote… we need to understand how the Children of Israel viewed death. They viewed it as one of Satan’s lies. Think about it… it really is a lie, because we do not die we move on to the next estate. This was a great testimonial that they believed in eternal exsistence. Now, when we understand that they did not believe death was real… the word to die might have held a different meaning to them. Those who previously saw the face of God did “die” as to this world… they were translated. Perhaps they were referring to the ability they had to stay in this estate once they were being personally tutored by God??? Those who saw the face of God simply progressed further still… and ultimately were “taken” to live with him in Zion…. The Children of Israel needed to stay here so that the covenant with Abraham could be fulfilled… sort of like Noah….Does that make sense?

Great research and information.. thanks for sharing.

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