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  1. We are living in treacherous times. The elect of God must discern by the Spirit who the wolves among us are, desiring to destroy the work of God, as they merrily go about the flock in such fashionable skins. However, we have been warned as to their strategic tactics, of which they are masters.

    Isaiah 5:20–21
    20 ¶Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

    21 Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!

  2. Rebekah

    I find it absurd that people think that apologetics is going to destroy someones faith. If people decide not to be believe in the gospel they will. It’s not just because people decided to write something with a scholarly basis to give thought and perspective to that faith.

    After all the Book of Mormon states that we should be learned and well versed in scholarly pursuits with the caution of 2 Nephi 9:29 : But to be learned is good if they hearken unto the counsels of God.

    Or the fact that the Savior has told us to be wise as serpents,but harmless as doves. (Matthew 10:16)

  3. Dale

    I particularly liked his use of the Teddy Roosevelt quote at 32:00.

    It makes a HUGE amount of sense, in the light of recent events.

  4. @Dale, YES! I love that one too! It is so true. Here it is, in print:

    It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.

    (Theodore Roosevelt. Excerpt from the speech “Citizenship In A Republic” delivered at the Sorbonne, in Paris, France on 23 April, 1910)

  5. JL

    I second your observations about Brother Peterson. A nicer, kinder, more balanced guy you are unlikely to find. Through all of this, I wonder what Elder Maxwell would have to add to the subject? Nibley, on the other hand, made his views on this type of thing very clear while he was still around.

  6. I have to give my ha’pennyworth of whatever.

    I have seen Dan Peterson blamed for mean-spirited ad-hominems. Yet, I have not found anything he’s said in public that has been mean-spirited. Yes, sometimes he’s said things that could be misconstrued to mean something else than what I’ve taken from them.

    Yes, he sometimes uses sarcasm. And people who have trouble thinking abstractly, take sarcasm literally, taking offence rather than humour from it. I often run into that, because I have a tendency to answer sarcastically when someone asks a question I find myself exasperated with.

    Also, people who are unable to withstand conflicting ideas–they want all their ducks lined up perfectly, so to say–find it difficult to take some of the historical mistakes or controversies, and end up leaving the Church, because of their “integrity”. I wonder if those people think their own lives are completely beyond criticism by hindsight?

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