Comments for Temple Study - LDS Temples, Mormon Temples, Study Blog http://www.templestudy.com Fri, 10 Feb 2012 05:33:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 Comment on Matthew B. Brown passed away by Nathan000000 http://www.templestudy.com/2011/10/05/matthew-brown-passed/comment-page-1/#comment-6525 Nathan000000 Fri, 10 Feb 2012 05:33:48 +0000 http://www.templestudy.com/?p=2498#comment-6525 When I attended the last EXPOUND symposium, I signed up for the dinner afterward. There was a miscommunication and my payment had never been received. I was planning on paying Matthew with a check, but he told me to just enjoy dinner and not worry about paying. I objected but he wouldn't hear of it, just patted me on the shoulder and told me not to worry about it. So hospitable to a virtual stranger. When I attended the last EXPOUND symposium, I signed up for the dinner afterward. There was a miscommunication and my payment had never been received. I was planning on paying Matthew with a check, but he told me to just enjoy dinner and not worry about paying. I objected but he wouldn’t hear of it, just patted me on the shoulder and told me not to worry about it. So hospitable to a virtual stranger.

]]> Comment on A Flaming Sword? by Sarah http://www.templestudy.com/2008/01/29/a-flaming-sword/comment-page-1/#comment-6521 Sarah Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:35:25 +0000 http://www.templestudy.com/2008/01/29/a-flaming-sword/#comment-6521 It is interesting who is asked to put the flaming sword and cheribum in place. He who represents judgement (flaming sword) and He who represents atonement and mercy (cherubim). He who will lead the way, teach the way, guide the way and judge who enters. God the Father speaks symbolically. It is interesting who is asked to put the flaming sword and cheribum in place. He who represents judgement (flaming sword) and He who represents atonement and mercy (cherubim). He who will lead the way, teach the way, guide the way and judge who enters. God the Father speaks symbolically.

]]> Comment on Consecrate = “A Filled Hand” in Hebrew by Eric http://www.templestudy.com/2008/06/13/consecrate-a-filled-hand-in-hebrew/comment-page-1/#comment-6514 Eric Tue, 07 Feb 2012 16:02:59 +0000 http://www.templestudy.com/?p=347#comment-6514 There is a great description of the filled hand and how it relates to the sacrificial offerings in Bible Dictionary - "Priests". After the initiate priests were washed, clothed, and anointed, they (the inititiates) then made three offerings: a sin offering (with the meat going to the officiating priests), a burnt offering (with anything not burnt going to the officiating priests), and a peace offering (with the meat this time being returned to the initiate - his hand is filled with the fat and meat. It seems to me that the sin and burnt offerings are "sacrifice" offerings (that is, nothing is returned to him), and the peace offering is the "consecration" offering. Compare this to the modern-day law of consecration. As it was practiced in Joseph Smith's day, a person entering into the law of consecration would transfer all of his property to the Church by legal deed, after which the Church would return (usually all of) the property to the person, again by legal deed. The person's hand is filled, but now his property is consecrated - dedicated to God in Holiness to the Lord. There is a great description of the filled hand and how it relates to the sacrificial offerings in Bible Dictionary – “Priests”. After the initiate priests were washed, clothed, and anointed, they (the inititiates) then made three offerings: a sin offering (with the meat going to the officiating priests), a burnt offering (with anything not burnt going to the officiating priests), and a peace offering (with the meat this time being returned to the initiate – his hand is filled with the fat and meat. It seems to me that the sin and burnt offerings are “sacrifice” offerings (that is, nothing is returned to him), and the peace offering is the “consecration” offering.

Compare this to the modern-day law of consecration. As it was practiced in Joseph Smith’s day, a person entering into the law of consecration would transfer all of his property to the Church by legal deed, after which the Church would return (usually all of) the property to the person, again by legal deed. The person’s hand is filled, but now his property is consecrated – dedicated to God in Holiness to the Lord.

]]> Comment on Temple as a Scale-Model of the Universe by Derek Porter http://www.templestudy.com/2008/04/04/temple-as-a-scale-model-of-the-universe/comment-page-1/#comment-6508 Derek Porter Thu, 02 Feb 2012 21:36:18 +0000 http://www.templestudy.com/?p=239#comment-6508 @David Littlefield - I see some value in your theory as well regarding dimensions. Regarding God's ability to see past, present and future, it reminds me of the 4th dimension as shown here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkxieS-6WuA With that said, I think there is more to consider within dimensional theory and its implications as well. @David Littlefield – I see some value in your theory as well regarding dimensions. Regarding God’s ability to see past, present and future, it reminds me of the 4th dimension as shown here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkxieS-6WuA

With that said, I think there is more to consider within dimensional theory and its implications as well.

]]> Comment on The Seal of Melchizedek – Part 4 by britt k http://www.templestudy.com/2008/09/11/the-seal-of-melchizedek-part-4/comment-page-1/#comment-6500 britt k Sun, 29 Jan 2012 13:16:45 +0000 http://www.templestudy.com/?p=902#comment-6500 Very interesting blog. I really enjoyed this series. I grew up seeing the diagrams and designs for the San Diego temple, whenever I played at my friend's house (Bill Lewis' daughter). As a child I couldn't imagine someone being interested in or working on any one project for so long. It was inspiring. It is interesting to hear the differing versions of how the interlocking square motif came to the San Diego temple. Thanks! Very interesting blog. I really enjoyed this series. I grew up seeing the diagrams and designs for the San Diego temple, whenever I played at my friend’s house (Bill Lewis’ daughter). As a child I couldn’t imagine someone being interested in or working on any one project for so long. It was inspiring. It is interesting to hear the differing versions of how the interlocking square motif came to the San Diego temple. Thanks!

]]> Comment on King Benjamin and the Temple by Eric http://www.templestudy.com/2008/05/28/king-benjamin-and-the-temple/comment-page-1/#comment-6496 Eric Sat, 28 Jan 2012 22:14:03 +0000 http://www.templestudy.com/?p=315#comment-6496 Great blog - I just found it a few months ago and am working through it slowly (hence my long-delayed comment). Something that you didn't mention here, but is significant is that the people came and pitched tents, much like what would take place in Jerusalem at the Feast of Tabernacles. I forget where I got this idea, likely from some reading of some LDS scholar. It seems to be supported by Mosiah 1:10 in which Mosiah is instructed to gather all the people together <em>tomorrow</em>. We don't know how many people gathered, but it was enough that they all couldn't hear. Gathering that many people to Zarahemla in one day might have been difficult, and so it may be that the people were already gathered for a feast and only needed to be told that King Benjamin was going to speak to them. Of course, this reads a number of things into the text that aren't there, but it seems plausible. One thing I love about King Benjamin's sermon is that from the very beginning, King Benjamin had the intention of giving his people a name to distinguish them, and one that would never be blotted out except by transgression (Mosiah 1:11-12). Also, this event would be a coronation of a new king. Some interesting parallels. Great blog – I just found it a few months ago and am working through it slowly (hence my long-delayed comment). Something that you didn’t mention here, but is significant is that the people came and pitched tents, much like what would take place in Jerusalem at the Feast of Tabernacles. I forget where I got this idea, likely from some reading of some LDS scholar. It seems to be supported by Mosiah 1:10 in which Mosiah is instructed to gather all the people together tomorrow. We don’t know how many people gathered, but it was enough that they all couldn’t hear. Gathering that many people to Zarahemla in one day might have been difficult, and so it may be that the people were already gathered for a feast and only needed to be told that King Benjamin was going to speak to them. Of course, this reads a number of things into the text that aren’t there, but it seems plausible.

One thing I love about King Benjamin’s sermon is that from the very beginning, King Benjamin had the intention of giving his people a name to distinguish them, and one that would never be blotted out except by transgression (Mosiah 1:11-12). Also, this event would be a coronation of a new king. Some interesting parallels.

]]> Comment on Seeing the Face of God in the Temple – Part 1 by Brent http://www.templestudy.com/2011/04/10/seeing-face-god-temple-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-6493 Brent Wed, 25 Jan 2012 02:21:51 +0000 http://www.templestudy.com/?p=2450#comment-6493 A very inspiring post! Thank you, it brightened my day. A very inspiring post! Thank you, it brightened my day.

]]> Comment on Living the Law of Consecration – Part 2: The Law & The United Order by Deboogey http://www.templestudy.com/2008/11/29/living-the-law-of-consecration-part-2-the-law-the-united-order/comment-page-1/#comment-6492 Deboogey Tue, 24 Jan 2012 00:02:21 +0000 http://www.templestudy.com/?p=1234#comment-6492 I know I'm late to the party, but no work has shaped my understanding of how to try and live the Law of Consecration in today's society more than Hugh W. Nibley's, "Work We Must, But the Lunch is Free," found in Approaching Zion, vol. 9 of The Collected Works of Hugh Nibley (Salt Lake City: Deseret Book and FARMS, 1989), 203–51. A quick Google search will turn up an online version. I know I’m late to the party, but no work has shaped my understanding of how to try and live the Law of Consecration in today’s society more than Hugh W. Nibley’s, “Work We Must, But the Lunch is Free,” found in Approaching Zion, vol. 9 of The Collected Works of Hugh Nibley (Salt Lake City: Deseret Book and FARMS, 1989), 203-51. A quick Google search will turn up an online version.

]]> Comment on Does the Parable of the Ten Virgins Represent Endowed Members Only? by Chase http://www.templestudy.com/2011/04/18/parable-ten-virgins-represent-endowed-members/comment-page-1/#comment-6484 Chase Sun, 15 Jan 2012 06:13:23 +0000 http://www.templestudy.com/?p=2471#comment-6484 By the way, I believe that thought originated with Denver Snuffer, but don't quote me on that. By the way, I believe that thought originated with Denver Snuffer, but don’t quote me on that.

]]> Comment on Does the Parable of the Ten Virgins Represent Endowed Members Only? by Chase http://www.templestudy.com/2011/04/18/parable-ten-virgins-represent-endowed-members/comment-page-1/#comment-6483 Chase Sun, 15 Jan 2012 06:12:11 +0000 http://www.templestudy.com/?p=2471#comment-6483 I think the symbolism of the wedding garment is the key to this question. The idea doesn't originate with me, but I'm happy to pass it on. Those who feel they can reasonably expect to enter into the wedding feast must wear the appropriate garment (according to Christ's parable-Matt 22?). So, who in the church wears garments? Those who are endowed. As far as keeping a temple recommend is concerned, I think that much more is required than simply holding a current one. The temple isn't the end. After baptism, it is the very beginning, and those things we do there are only symbolic (admittedly so). There is only saving power in the endowment insofar as we see the rites and ordinances as a process to participate in. That is why we are instructed to consider ourselves as Adam and Eve. There are many who wear the temple garment, but I fear few who have walked the path that is described in the endowment. I think the symbolism of the wedding garment is the key to this question. The idea doesn’t originate with me, but I’m happy to pass it on. Those who feel they can reasonably expect to enter into the wedding feast must wear the appropriate garment (according to Christ’s parable-Matt 22?). So, who in the church wears garments? Those who are endowed. As far as keeping a temple recommend is concerned, I think that much more is required than simply holding a current one. The temple isn’t the end. After baptism, it is the very beginning, and those things we do there are only symbolic (admittedly so). There is only saving power in the endowment insofar as we see the rites and ordinances as a process to participate in. That is why we are instructed to consider ourselves as Adam and Eve. There are many who wear the temple garment, but I fear few who have walked the path that is described in the endowment.

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