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		<title>Baptism for the Dead: An Erroneous Practice? &#8211; Part 3</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[(Continued from Part 2) Another early Christian evidence for the practice of baptism for the dead is from texts that reference the practice among a group known as the Marcionites. This group was a separate Christian body from the Church of Rome, who followed the teachings of Marcion (ca. 110-160) as their spiritual leader (sometimes [...]<p><a href="http://www.templestudy.com/2008/05/21/baptism-for-the-dead-an-erroneous-practice-part-3/">Baptism for the Dead: An Erroneous Practice? &#8211; Part 3</a></p>
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<p><strong>Another early Christian evidence for the practice of baptism for the dead is from texts that reference the practice among a group known as the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcionites">Marcionites</a></strong>.  This group was a separate Christian body from the Church of Rome, who followed the teachings of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcion">Marcion</a> (ca. 110-160) as their spiritual leader (sometimes referenced as Marcion of Sinope).  The writings of Marcion are lost, so the information we have about him and his followers comes largely from the writings of others.  Marcion was a Christian theologian, a ship owner, may have been the son of the bishop in Sinope, and was consecrated a bishop himself.  He gathered a large following but was excommunicated from the Church of Rome in 144 as a heretic, apparently because his beliefs about the gospel clashed with the bishops of Rome.  His following was strong, however, and continued to expand even after Marcion&#8217;s death for quite some time.  Marcionism was a major rival to the Catholic Church.</p>
<p>So why do we use an example of a practice among a &#8220;heretical&#8221; group of Christians?  Dr. John A. Tvedtnes has taught,  <span id="more-303"></span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Latter-day Saints, believing that the great apostasy was already well under way by Marcion&#8217;s time and that no Christian group then possessed the full truth, <strong>see the practice as a remnant of an earlier rite dating from the time of the apostles</strong>.</p>
<p>The clearest description of the practice among the Marcionites comes from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Chrysostom">St. John Chrysostom</a> (347-407), an early father of the church.  He describes it as a proxy baptism, the Marcionites using as evidence <a style="padding:1px;color:#901808;text-decoration:;" href="#" onclick="linkClick('dslink_1980844635');return false;" onmouseover="linkMouseOver('dslink_1980844635');" onmouseout="linkMouseOut('dslink_1980844635');">1 &#67;&#111;&#114;. 15:29:</a></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;when any Catechumen departs among them, having concealed the living man under the couch of the dead, they approach the corpse and talk with him, and ask him if he wishes to receive baptism; then when he makes no answer, he that is concealed underneath says in his stead that of course he should wish to be baptized; <strong>and so they baptize him instead of the departed</strong>&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>St. Chrysostom goes on to condemn the practice, construing that Paul meant the living were being baptized with faith in the resurrection of the dead.  It must be remembered he lived several centuries after the Savior, and the apostasy had already progressed substantially by that time.  <strong>What this is evidence of, however, as are the following references, is that a large early Christian group in the second century firmly believed in vicarious baptism, practiced it extensively, and did so using the apostle Paul&#8217;s words to the Corinthians as positive support for the practice. </strong>This practice was so well known, several early theologians had to mention it, to condemn it.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tertullian">Tertullian</a> (160-225), another early church leader and Christian apologist, seems to have been confused himself as to the meaning of Paul&#8217;s words.  This whole time period is marked by confusion as to the true doctrines and practices of Christianity.  The Church of Rome itself was trying to figure it all out, hence the creeds which were established centuries later.  In one instance Tertullian seems to use the practice of a proxy baptism, <strong>which he knew to exist among &#8220;some,&#8221;</strong> in support of a bodily resurrection:</p>
<blockquote><p>For if as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive, their vivification in Christ must be in the flesh, since it is in the flesh that arises their death in Adam. But every man in his own order,  because of course it will be also every man in his own body. For the order will be arranged severally, on account of the individual merits. Now, as the merits must be ascribed to the body, it must needs follow that the order also should be arranged in respect of the bodies, that it may be in relation to their merits. <strong>But inasmuch as some are also baptized for the dead, we will see whether there be a good reason for this. Now it is certain that they adopted this (practice) with such a presumption as made them suppose that the vicarious baptism (in question) would be beneficial to the flesh of another in anticipation of the resurrection; for unless it were a bodily resurrection, there would be no pledge secured by this process of a corporeal baptism</strong>. Why are they then baptized for the dead, he asks, unless the bodies rise again which are thus baptized?</p></blockquote>
<p>In another text, Tertullian didn&#8217;t believe Paul meant vicarious baptism at all, but still with some uncertainty as to the nature of it, and the early Christian practice of it:</p>
<blockquote><p>What, asks he, shall they do who are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not? <strong>Now, never mind that practice, (whatever it may have been.)</strong> The Februarian lustrations will perhaps answer him (quite as well), by praying for the dead.  Do not then suppose that the apostle here indicates some new god as the author and advocate of this (baptism for the dead. His only aim in alluding to it was) that he might all the more firmly insist upon the resurrection of the body, <strong>in proportion as they who were vainly baptized for the dead resorted to the practice from their belief of such a resurrection</strong>. We have the apostle in another passage defining but one baptism.  To be baptized for the dead therefore means, in fact, to be baptized for the body; for, as we have shown, it is the body which becomes dead. What, then, shall they do who are baptized for the body, if the body rises not again?</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epiphanius_of_Salamis">Epiphanius</a> (315-403), another church father, likewise gives us evidence for the early Christian practice, even the &#8220;tradition,&#8221; of baptism for the dead, which he heard rumors of certain Christians practicing.  But, in keeping with modus operandi, likewise deems the practice a misunderstanding of scripture:</p>
<blockquote><p>For their school was at its very peak in this country, Asia, and in Galatia moreover.  And in these localities I even heard a piece of tradition which said that <strong>when some of their people died early without baptism, others would be baptized for them, in their names, to keep them from being punished for rising unbaptized at the general resurrection</strong>, and becoming subject to the authority that made the world. And the tradition I heard says that this is why the holy apostle said, &#8220;If the dead rise not at all, why are they baptized for them?&#8221; But others explain the text well by saying that, so long as they are catechumens, the dying are allowed baptism before the end with this hope, to show that he who has died will also arise, and therefore needs the baptismal forgiveness of sins.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>What these examples show, is that there was a widespread and early practice of baptism for the dead in Christianity</strong>, believing that Paul&#8217;s words to the Corinthians was plain evidence for the practice, something that many critics are unwilling to admit, but which are attested to clearly by some of the earliest theologians of the time, <strong>whether they agreed with it or not</strong>.  For all these learned ones to have thought there was an exigency to stand against it in their own time, the practice must have been more than an small aberration.  If there were writings extant from these groups that practiced baptism for the dead, we might have a very different understanding today of the early practice.  We tend to only be told one side of the story, the side that won the theological debate on the issue.  But what if the wrong side won?</p>
<p>The Latter-day Saints today believe that baptism for the dead was a practice established by Christ after his resurrection, in beginning the great work of the redemption of the dead, the dead who did not have the chance to hear and accept the gospel in life, as Clement of Alexandria so eloquently <a title="Part 2" href="http://www.templestudy.com/2008/05/16/baptism-for-the-dead-an-erroneous-practice-part-2/">explained</a>.  We believe that the rite was practiced by the apostles and the early Christians, but like other temple ordinances, was considered very sacred, and one of the mysteries, not to be divulged to everyone.  Through apostasy, the practice gradually died out.</p>
<p>(To be continued&#8230;)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.templestudy.com/2008/05/21/baptism-for-the-dead-an-erroneous-practice-part-3/">Baptism for the Dead: An Erroneous Practice? &#8211; Part 3</a></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[(Continued from Part 1) Some of the best studies of the early Christian practice of baptism for the dead have come from Hugh Nibley and John A. Tvedtnes. Both of these LDS scholars have written extensively on the topic. I hope to analyze some of their excellent work and provide examples of the practice of [...]<p><a href="http://www.templestudy.com/2008/05/16/baptism-for-the-dead-an-erroneous-practice-part-2/">Baptism for the Dead: An Erroneous Practice? &#8211; Part 2</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-288" title="good_shepherd" src="http://www.templestudy.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/good_shepherd.jpg" alt="Close on Jesus as the Good Shepherd. Ceiling - S. Callisto catacomb. Mid 3rd century A.D." width="255" height="361" />(Continued from <a href="http://www.templestudy.com/2008/05/10/baptism-for-the-dead-an-erroneous-practice-part-1/">Part 1</a>)</p>
<p>Some of the best studies of the early Christian practice of baptism for the dead have come from <a href="http://farms.byu.edu/publications/nibley.php?selection=nibley&amp;cat=nibley">Hugh Nibley</a> and <a href="http://maxwellinstitute.byu.edu/viewauthor.php?authorID=62">John A. Tvedtnes</a>.  Both of these LDS scholars have written extensively on the topic.  I hope to analyze some of their excellent work and provide examples of the practice of baptism for the dead which have been discovered in many different apocryphal and pseudepigraphal texts.</p>
<h1>The Shepherd of Hermas</h1>
<p>The first text we&#8217;ll look at is called <a title="Wikipedia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shepherd_of_Hermas"><em>the Shepherd of Hermas</em></a> (also called <em>the Pastor of Hermas</em>).  This was a very popular work in early Christianity, and several early Christians considered it scripture with other New Testament texts, combining them into the same canon.  It was written in Rome in the second century, and was written in Greek, though a Latin translation was also soon made.  Two English translations are now available for reading online at Early Christian Writings, <a href="http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/shepherd.html">here</a>, and <a href="http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/shepherd-lightfoot.html">here</a>.  If you&#8217;re up to it, you can also read the <a href="http://www.ccel.org/l/lake/fathers/shepherd_a.htm">Greek</a> directly. <span id="more-287"></span></p>
<p>The text is composed of five visions, twelve mandates, and ten parables.  These apocalypses are given to <a title="Wikipedia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermas_%28freedman%29">Hermas</a>, a former slave or freedman, who is said to have been the brother of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Pius_I">Pope Pius</a>, bishop of Rome.  Some believe it is this same Hermas who is the author of <em>the Shepherd of Hermas</em>.</p>
<p>The part of the text that is of interest to us here is from Parable (or Similitude) 9.  In this parable, the &#8220;Angel of repentance&#8221; in the form of a shepherd, comes to teach Hermas concerning the church.  <strong>The church is compared to the building of a tower, the stones representing faithful members of the church</strong>, similar to Paul&#8217;s description of the church as one body made up of many members in <a style="padding:1px;color:#901808;text-decoration:;" href="#" onclick="linkClick('dslink_421254527');return false;" onmouseover="linkMouseOver('dslink_421254527');" onmouseout="linkMouseOut('dslink_421254527');">1 &#67;&#111;&#114;&#105;&#110;&#116;&#104;&#105;&#97;&#110;&#115; 12</a>, or as a household in <a style="padding:1px;color:#901808;text-decoration:;" href="#" onclick="linkClick('dslink_1017780872');return false;" onmouseover="linkMouseOver('dslink_1017780872');" onmouseout="linkMouseOut('dslink_1017780872');">&#69;&#112;&#104;&#101;&#115;&#105;&#97;&#110;&#115; 2</a>.  This vision also has many parallels with Lehi&#8217;s vision of the tree of life in <a style="padding:1px;color:#901808;text-decoration:;" href="#" onclick="linkClick('dslink_1745329900');return false;" onmouseover="linkMouseOver('dslink_1745329900');" onmouseout="linkMouseOut('dslink_1745329900');">1 &#78;&#101;&#112;&#104;&#105; 8</a>, with only certain souls becoming part of the tower while others are cast away from it, wander into forbidden paths, and are lost.  Similarities could also be pointed out in the allegory of the olive tree from <a style="padding:1px;color:#901808;text-decoration:;" href="#" onclick="linkClick('dslink_1962132303');return false;" onmouseover="linkMouseOver('dslink_1962132303');" onmouseout="linkMouseOut('dslink_1962132303');">&#74;&#97;&#99;&#111;&#98; 5</a>.</p>
<h1>Temple Imagery</h1>
<p><strong>Parable 9 is full of temple imagery, the tower being referred to as &#8220;the Church&#8221; but also as &#8220;house of God.&#8221;</strong> Chapter 2 of Parable 9 describes this tower in more detail, being built upon a large white rectangular rock.  This rock had a glittering gate cut out of it, and was guarded round about by twelve virgins dressed in linen robes.  Chapter 3 introduces six men who come to oversee the construction of the building, with a multitude of other men.  An interesting detail states, &#8220;Now the virgins  had spread out their hands, as if about to receive something from  the men.&#8221;  The work commences in building the tower out of stones.  Some stones are commanded to &#8220;ascend out of a certain pit&#8221; to go into building the tower.  They are carried by the virgins, who stoop down under the stones, and take them through the gate, to the men building the tower.  Chapter 4 continues that other stones came up out of the pit to join the tower, all the while being carried <em>only</em> by the guarding virgins through the gate to the tower, it being inefficacious unless &#8220;they be carried  through the gate by the hands of the virgins.&#8221;  Chapter 5 speaks of Hermas again, who asks the angel what is meant by all these symbols in the vision.  He is told that eventually the meaning will be made known to him.</p>
<p>Chapter 12 begins to recount the symbolism of the different objects in the vision.  The rock and the gate represent the Son of God.  The conversation on the gate is insightful, being a required entrance to the tower:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;And why is the gate new, sir?&#8221; I said.  &#8220;Because,&#8221; he answered, &#8220;He became manifest in the last days of  the dispensation: for this reason the gate was made new, that they  who are to be saved by it might enter into the kingdom of God. You  saw,&#8221; he said, &#8220;that those stones which came in through the gate  were used for the building of the tower, and that those which did  not come, were again thrown back to their own place? &#8220;I saw, sir,&#8221; I  replied. &#8220;In like manner,&#8221; he continued, &#8220;<strong>no one shall enter into  the kingdom of God unless he receive His holy name</strong>. For if you  desire to enter into a city, and that city is surrounded by a wall,  and has but one gate, can you enter into that city save through the  gate which it has?&#8221; &#8220;Why, how can it be otherwise, sir?&#8221; I said.  &#8220;If, then, you cannot enter into the city except through its gate, so, in like manner, <strong>a man  cannot otherwise enter into the kingdom of God than by the name of  His beloved Son</strong>. You saw,&#8221; he added, &#8220;the multitude who were  building the tower?&#8221; &#8220;I saw them, sir,&#8221; I said. &#8220;Those,&#8221; he said,  &#8220;are all glorious angels, and by them accordingly is the Lord  surrounded. And the gate is the Son of God. This is the one entrance  to the Lord. <strong>In no other way, then, shall any one enter in to Him  except through His Son</strong>. You saw,&#8221; he continued, &#8220;the six men, and  the tail and glorious man in the midst of them, who walked round the  tower, and rejected the stones from the building? &#8220;I saw him, sir,&#8221;  I answered. &#8220;The glorious man,&#8221; he said, &#8220;is the Son of God, and  those six glorious angels are those who support Him on the right  hand and on the left. None of these glorious angels,&#8221; he continued,  &#8220;will enter in unto God apart from Him. Whosoever does not receive  His name, shall not enter into the kingdom of God.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Chapter 13 tells us the symbolism of the virgins, and particularly of being vested with certain symbolic clothing, the same clothing with which Christ is vested:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;And these virgins, who are they?&#8221; &#8220;They  are holy spirits, and men cannot otherwise be found in the kingdom  of God unless these have put their clothing upon them: for if you  receive the name only, and do not receive from them the clothing,  they are of no advantage to you. For these virgins are the powers of  the Son of God. If you bear His name but possess not His power, it  will be in vain that you bear His name. Those stones,&#8221; he continued,  &#8220;which you saw rejected bore His name, but did not put on the  clothing of the virgins.&#8221; &#8220;Of what nature is their clothing, sir?&#8221; I  asked. &#8220;Their very names,&#8221; he said, &#8220;are their clothing. Every one  who bears the name of the Son of God, ought to bear the names also  of these; for the Son Himself bears the names of these virgins.  As many stones,&#8221; he continued, &#8220;as you saw [come into the building  of the tower through the hands ] of these virgins, and remaining,  have been clothed with their strength. For this reason you see that  the tower became of one stone with the rock. <strong>So also they who have  believed on the Lord through His Son, and are clothed with these  spirits, shall become one spirit, one body, and the colour of their  garments shall be one.</strong> And the dwelling of such as bear the names of  the virgins is in the tower.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<h1>The Seal of Baptism</h1>
<p>Chapter 16 begins to tell how those stones, even having been clothed in the right &#8220;spirits,&#8221; were required to receive a &#8220;seal&#8221; before they could unite themselves to the tower:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Why, sir,&#8221; I said, &#8220;did these stones ascend  out of the pit, and be applied to the building of the tower, after  having borne these spirits? &#8220;<strong>They were obliged</strong>,&#8221; he answered, &#8220;<strong>to  ascend through water in order that they might be made alive</strong>; for,  unless they laid aside the deadness of their life, they could not in  any other way enter into the kingdom of God. <strong>Accordingly, those also  who fell asleep received the seal of the Son of God</strong>. For,&#8221; he  continued, &#8220;before a man bears the name of the Son of God he is  dead; but when he receives the seal he lays aside his deadness, and  obtains life. <strong>The seal, then, is the water: they descend into the  water dead, and they arise alive</strong>. And to them, accordingly, was this  seal preached, and they made use of it that they might enter into  the kingdom of God.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>The required seal was, of course, baptism by immersion in water.  It is enlightening that baptism is here called a &#8220;seal.&#8221;  Hermas then asks a very interesting question:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Why, sir,&#8221; I asked, &#8220;did the forty stones also  ascend with them out of the pit, <strong>having already received the seal?</strong>&#8220;</p></blockquote>
<p>There were some stones, faithful members of the church, that had <em>already</em> received the seal of baptism, and yet they were ascending from the pit as well, with the others.  Why were they in the pit?  The Shepherd enlightens Hermas:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Because,&#8221;    saith he, &#8220;these, the apostles and the teachers who preached the name of the    Son of God, after they had fallen asleep in the power and faith of the Son of    God, <strong>preached also to them that had <em>fallen asleep before them</em>, and themselves    gave unto them the seal of the preaching</strong>. Therefore they went down with them into the water, and came up    again. But these went down alive [and again came up alive]; whereas the others    that had fallen asleep before them went down dead and came up alive. So by their means they were quickened into life, and came to the    full knowledge of the name of the Son of God. For this cause also they came up    with them, and were fitted with them into the building of the tower and were    builded with them, without being shaped; <strong>for they fell asleep in righteousness    and in great purity. Only they had not this seal.</strong> Thou hast then the    interpretation of these things also.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>These stones represented teachers who, after having &#8220;fallen asleep&#8221; or died, were sent to preach the name of the Son of God to those who had &#8220;fallen asleep before them,&#8221; and to thereafter give them the seal of baptism.  These who had died before them were righteous and pure people, but they had not received the seal of baptism during life.  They therefore received the gospel after having died, and were baptized, a required seal for entrance into the kingdom of God.</p>
<p>Hugh Nibley explained that this could have only been an earthly ordinance of the living for the dead because of the requirement of physical water in the ordinance:</p>
<blockquote><p>What is perfectly clear is that the apostles while they were still    living performed an ordinance--the earthly ordinance of baptism in water--which    concerned the welfare of those who had already died. That it was an earthly    baptism which could only be performed with water is emphatically stated in the    sentences immediately preceding those cited . . .</p></blockquote>
<h1>Clement of Alexandria</h1>
<p>This passage from <em>The Shepherd of Hermas</em> is cited by Clement of Alexandria, a respected early Church Father who lived at the end of the second century, who gives a commentary on Christ and his apostles preaching to the dead and their subsequent baptism:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Wherefore the Lord preached the Gospel to those in Hades</strong>. . . .</p>
<p><strong>Do not [the Scriptures] show that the Lord preached the Gospel to  those that perished in the flood</strong>, or rather had been chained, and to those kept  &#8220;in ward and guard&#8221;? And it has been shown also, in the second book of the  Stromata, <strong>that the apostles, following the Lord, preached the Gospel to those in  Hades</strong>. For it was requisite, in my opinion, that as here, so also there, the  best of the disciples should be imitators of the Master; so that He should bring  to repentance those belonging to the Hebrews, and they the Gentiles; that is,  those who had lived in righteousness according to the Law and Philosophy, who  had ended life not perfectly, but sinfully. . . .</p>
<p><strong>If, then, the Lord descended to Hades for no other end but to preach the  Gospel, as He did descend; it was either to preach the Gospel to all or to the  Hebrews only. If, accordingly, to all, then all who believe shall be saved,  although they may be of the Gentiles, on making their profession there</strong>; since  God&#8217;s punishments are saving and disciplinary, leading to conversion, and  choosing rather the repentance thorn the death of a sinner; and especially since  souls, although darkened by passions, when released from their bodies, are able  to perceive more clearly, because of their being no longer obstructed by the  paltry flesh.</p>
<p>If, then, He preached only to the Jews, who wanted the knowledge and faith of  the Saviour, it is plain that, since God is no respecter of persons, <strong>the  apostles also, as here, so there preached the Gospel to those of the heathen who  were ready for conversion. And it is well said by the Shepherd, &#8220;They went down  with them therefore into the water, and again ascended. But these descended  alive, and again ascended alive. But those who had fallen asleep, descended  dead, but ascended alive.&#8221;</strong> . . .</p>
<p>One righteous man, then, differs not, as righteous, from another righteous  man, whether he be of the Law or a Greek. For God is not only Lord of the Jews,  but of all men, and more nearly the Father of those who know Him. For if to live  well and according to the law is to live, also to live rationally according to  the law is to live; <strong>and those who lived rightly before the Law were classed  under faith, and judged to be righteous, &#8212; it is evident that those, too, who  were outside of the Law, having lived rightly, in consequence of the peculiar&#8217;  nature of the voice, though they are in Hades and in ward, on hearing the voice  of the Lord, whether that of His own person or that acting through His apostles,  with all speed turned and believed</strong>. . . .</p>
<p>So I think it is demonstrated that the God being good, and the Lord powerful,  <strong>they save with a righteousness and equality which extend to all that turn to  Him, whether here or elsewhere</strong>. For it is not here alone that the active power  of God is beforehand, but it is everywhere and is always at work. . . . that they who  heard and believed should be saved; and that those who believed not, after  having heard, should bear witness, not having the excuse to allege, We have not  heard.</p>
<p>What then? <strong>Did not the same dispensation obtain in Hades, so that even there,  all the souls, on hearing the proclamation, might either exhibit repentance, or  confess that their punishment was just, because they believed not?</strong> And it were  the exercise of no ordinary arbitrariness, for those who had departed before the  advent of the Lord (not having the Gospel preached to them, and having afforded  no ground from themselves, in consequence of believing or not) to obtain either  salvation or punishment. <strong>For it is not right that these should be condemned  without trial, and that those alone who lived after the advent should have the  advantage of the divine righteousness</strong>. But to all rational souls it was said  from above, &#8220;Whatever one of you has done in ignorance, without clearly knowing  God, if, on becoming conscious, he repent, all his sins will be forgiven him.&#8221; . . .</p>
<p>If, then, He preached the Gospel to those in the flesh that they might not be  condemned unjustly, how is it conceivable that He did not for the same cause  preach the Gospel to those who had departed this life before His advent?</p></blockquote>
<h1>The Vision of the Redemption of the Dead</h1>
<p>This language is almost identical to that of the vision of President Joseph F. Smith in his vision of the redemption of the dead in <a style="padding:1px;color:#901808;text-decoration:;" href="#" onclick="linkClick('dslink_1948815248');return false;" onmouseover="linkMouseOver('dslink_1948815248');" onmouseout="linkMouseOut('dslink_1948815248');">&#68;&&#67; 138</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>And as I wondered, my eyes were opened, and my understanding quickened, and I perceived that the Lord went not in person among the wicked and the disobedient who had rejected the truth, to teach them;</p>
<p>But behold, from among the righteous, <strong>he organized his forces and appointed messengers</strong>, clothed with power and authority, and commissioned them to go forth and carry the light of the gospel to them that were in darkness, even to all the spirits of men; and thus was the gospel preached to the dead.</p>
<p><strong>And the chosen messengers went forth to declare the acceptable day of the Lord and proclaim liberty to the captives who were bound, even unto all who would repent of their sins and receive the gospel.</strong></p>
<p>Thus was the gospel preached to those who had died in their sins, without a knowledge of the truth, or in transgression, having rejected the prophets.</p>
<p><strong>These were taught faith in God, repentance from sin, vicarious baptism for the remission of sins, the gift of the Holy Ghost by the laying on of hands,</strong></p>
<p>And all other principles of the gospel that were necessary for them to know in order to qualify themselves that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.</p>
<p>And so it was made known among the dead, both small and great, the unrighteous as well as the faithful, that redemption had been wrought through the sacrifice of the Son of God upon the cross. (<a style="padding:1px;color:#901808;text-decoration:;" href="#" onclick="linkClick('dslink_1958688074');return false;" onmouseover="linkMouseOver('dslink_1958688074');" onmouseout="linkMouseOut('dslink_1958688074');">&#68;&&#67; 138:29-35</a>)</p>
<p>I beheld that the faithful elders of this dispensation, when they depart from mortal life, continue their labors in the preaching of the gospel of repentance and redemption, through the sacrifice of the Only Begotten Son of God, among those who are in darkness and under the bondage of sin in the great world of the spirits of the dead.</p>
<p><strong>The dead who repent will be redeemed, through obedience to the ordinances of the house of God,</strong></p>
<p><strong>And after they have paid the penalty of their transgressions, and are washed clean, shall receive a reward according to their works</strong>, for they are heirs of salvation. (<a style="padding:1px;color:#901808;text-decoration:;" href="#" onclick="linkClick('dslink_2041345476');return false;" onmouseover="linkMouseOver('dslink_2041345476');" onmouseout="linkMouseOut('dslink_2041345476');">&#68;&&#67; 138:57-59</a>)</p></blockquote>
<p>(<a href="http://www.templestudy.com/2008/05/21/baptism-for-the-dead-an-erroneous-practice-part-3/">Continued in Part 3</a>)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.templestudy.com/2008/05/16/baptism-for-the-dead-an-erroneous-practice-part-2/">Baptism for the Dead: An Erroneous Practice? &#8211; Part 2</a></p>
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