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okay

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i think we live

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this is a a lion

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uh... google hang out

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at temple study dot com uh... fireside
discussion about the temple

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uh... we're excited about this missus
something definitely very new all of us

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uh...

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uh... definitely had some technical
difficulties that's why we're starting

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about ten minutes later so okhla

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adams guarantee you that you were in the
wrong place but uh... we had uh...

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we had to get our panelists and on the
discussion here that are going to be

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lending their in their voices in there

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uh... their knowledge to this discussion
limit

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uh... i'm hoping that it will be

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a really helpful to a lot of people

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uh... glad you could join us i'm we're
going to introduce our ourselves first

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uh... so you know who we all are

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and uh... then walk and talk about what
this is going to be all about

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uh... and the text is that uh... we're
going to be are using to springboard our

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discussion

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and then we'll just hop right into the
tax cell

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uh... all introduce myself first embrace
hemant on a campaign dashing uh...

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editor child

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double study cup

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harm pesticides and qualified

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toward about uh...

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but the

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or four years

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maybe five

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for five years and now it temple study
dot com

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uh... and uh... i've really enjoyed that
really enjoyed learning about the temple

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and increasing that men knowledge in and
sharing what i've learned and study with

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with with other people it's really been
enjoyable for me

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uh... just recently i was able to

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uh...

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work with uh... dan peterson and william
handel in and others too

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uh... build and launch uh... a new
journal hot cold interpreter

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and journal of mormon

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treasure

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which is uh...

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a great opportunity for a new avenue in
and apologetics and defending the trips

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in the gospel

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uh... so i'm really excited about that

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so that's a brief intro of me

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we will now i A

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uh... switchover to uh...

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ashu kal

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uh... he is with us rick if you could
introduce yourself

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hi armor etc audio

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them

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interested in the temples for

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perhaps longer than some of you who have
been

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hacker act

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and mortality of

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it's been a passion of mine and i had
several opportunities

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at one point i was hired away from the
way you to work

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in the salt lake tahoe

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my job was to know everything there was
no about the invalid so that

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translators who had questions

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concerning parts of the endowments could

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get their translations correct

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a lot

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maybe too much expecting uh... and at
uh... at the present time i'm involved

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with gary anderson john holland jack
welch in

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putting together this week

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conference that will be held in october
and that you've seen

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uh... braces page about that six temples
kitchen tables mormons conference

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which i think will be quite exciting and
that's plenty about me

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yeah let me let me just actually on a
switch over in just show that really

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quickly for our viewers to see

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so they can

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they can know what we're talking about

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uh...

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so this is the the the website that rick
is talking about uh...

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temple studies dot org

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uh... the academy for temple studies

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and

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like you said this is a this is a new
academy that the rich is put together

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and we're really excited about it

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there's going to be like you said a
conference com

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coming up that's deals with the temple
uh... up in logan utah it's on october

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twenty ninth and you can see the details
here on this website

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again temple studies dot or were really
excited about that uh...

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margaret barker

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and uh...

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uh... lines hemming and and and many
other great uh... presenters

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are going to be coming i here's just a
sampling terry anderson

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uh... dental bachman

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uh... murder parker phil barlow

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the grand babies

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john paul's

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uh... dot paul

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alarms hemming

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uh... there's a rick

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uh... he's with us tonight

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uh... daniel peterson and john welch
will be the presents another conference

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so that's really exciting

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uh... and were

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we're so glad to have you with the
strict tonight

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well i want to say one more thing broken
look at how beautiful at that website

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becca cracked

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it up to your phone list websites

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we would not be online if it were not
for the web skills of bryce in his

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brother brad

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and

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this is this is yeoman service this guy

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works really really hard i know how much
work you put into that

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interpreter side it's just it's just

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that boggles the mind them at work
you've done so i want and what

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figure much i appreciate it

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yes you're very welcome i i i guess i
forgot to mention that but i helped you

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out with the witness website as well so

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and i'm glad to have that opportunity to
uh... to help out wherever i can

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so

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uh... actually want warm over there let
me

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let me also show this one

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no i i mentioned interpreter and uh...
here it is

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um...

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this is the uh... the new journal that
uh... daniel peterson announced on

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friday at the fair conference in san
diego

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is a uh... new journal

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that way alarm and be focused on latter
day saint uh... scriptures

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uh... and uh... helping us increase our
understanding of scripture cell

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very exciting stuff

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really exciting that time uh... and
they'll be a studies

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i think your ect

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let's go to a steep january introduce
yourself

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germany's steven

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briefers grew up in credibility

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order cat

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do you know it

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why i was just uh... so you know my
group in texas side leaving las vegas

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now and uh...

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it several years back

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uh...

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came across temple study and i was just
really intrigued by that i just i love

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everything

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uh... having to do with the temple and
i'm giving you a little bit

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like technologies was fantastic i i
really enjoyed it

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the continent to really work

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and how what was being presented and how
is being covered and i honestly thought

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that some of the information wanted
words

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uh...

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was it was great for the public as well
as people who are familiar with the

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temple so

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uh...

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just seeing it that out there and then
uh...

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uh... just reading a uh...

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little article from uh...

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elder ballard where he said that we
should all be out there and eating in

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the discussion

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that uh... khana prompted me to uh...
i'll start my own site and uh... to

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start exploring in putting some
information out there it's more of a

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public journal

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underwriter on not smaller adjusting
julie uh... i'm julie temple as as uh...

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something that can be

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used ads as stricture that eugene uh...
insurance you you can experience yet you

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can use any a dairy dynamic immune
equally

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uh... in our fee

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and i think there's a lot that

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that members and and those who are
members of the church and watched him

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really learn from the temple that it is
just starting to

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to maybe get out there and some on sun
city moral so

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i think the more that we can talk about
it and get out there and help people

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understand that year they're curious
about your

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uh... members of seeking to

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to figure out you know how do you use a
temple you know letterhead and really

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don't know whether there's ordinances
but but what else what else is that what

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also what about

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on loai always invited here by the ice
and alot during first us

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technocrat cancun

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well we we sure appreciate you with
steve uh...

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i have been doing a reading what you
have written about the cost poland about

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tumbler of symbolism

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and uh... just so everyone knows steve
is uh... a also mall some designer

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and back better than me

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i would say

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much better that means he's really
really good hit the absolutely

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absolutely excellent so

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uh... we use your appreciation for being
here with this night

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contributors

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what's your side stage

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this weekend

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it's one climbs dot com

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what's shown that actually here on the
screen all of that

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that's important stuff

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yeah i just

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redesigned it

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recently has launched its against them

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so heres

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this is uh... steve reads site one
clients dot com

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and is where he belongs about

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all sorts of different things are
related to uh... the gospel

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uh... like he said it's kind of a
journal sorts but i think he doesn't

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absolutely excellent job

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uh... with the things that uh... that
you're right about here

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so so check it out everybody

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all right

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fantasies but out here

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teddy washburn uh...

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yesterday's yourself

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sheridan

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uh... actually can have a similar
stories to use uh... i came across

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temple study sometime ago

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and hum

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started my own whatever one calls sacred
symbol at that

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sort of similar to steve's it's just
kind of general gospel stuff it often

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focuses on the temple but

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uh... often other subs whether an
amateur to romance color anything like

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that

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uh... when does it look as fanciest
years it but uh... interestingly

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of this error

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yet that's gone dot com

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interestingly that didn't commit to the
technical stuff it was

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that it was my initial contact with
bryce asking about you know how to get

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his body

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and two different things like that that
premier a_m_ today my idle korea is

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built around uh... clap form that runs

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the rest of the study and convince my
books and stuff like that

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because of the national contacted by
saying i got it is to uh... you know

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it's kind of solution and always been
looking forward

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uh... just

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you know

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years of of working different things but
uh... now it's not smile job but so i

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did that and then up probably more
people know me from marvin lifehacker

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are after started and run the buckets
full

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you know i'm not payroll rather

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but uh...

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so that uh...

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pool

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that may be a good way to put it is

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raised helped me out with a very small
thing but it ended up being

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multiplying over time usually a huge
thing

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amout

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uh... and yet this is the closest to
meeting face to face that i've ever

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except under control we're going to go
out there and have a lunch or something

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but the never happened though it's a
must be park expect

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at lisa and this is the lord that and
threatened

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howard had good intentions right

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now at that point

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on sunday a with i really appreciate to
have the on some of you my tears in his

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name pop up well

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uh... because of uh... did restore farms
dot com movement

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um... when we see saw what happened to
farms at the maxwell institute

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uh... we're on the side

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uh... to say the least

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uh...

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and wanted to see that kind of
scholarship in that kind of apologetics

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just really

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live on and keep going

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uh... so we started uh... restore farms

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dot com

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um... and i can actually throw that one
up here too because eh...

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idea really helps

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uh... spearhead that an irish really
appreciate all there for a bit that he

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did

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um... bit

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to that went into that

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getting that launched in getting it
going and everything and i think that

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really made a difference and keeping

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you know that spirit alive and and uh...

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the energy in the enthusiasm going
through farm cell thank u tebya

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europcar

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thank you

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all right well that now that those were
some uh... good introductions i think

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everybody uh...

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knows well now who we have here we have
a great uh...

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great some great people with us

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and uh... looking forward to our our
discussion here together

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uh... what this is going to be let's
connect trying to be like a fireside

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discussion

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uh...

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i know that typically uh... fireside z
in the church are kind of mona is this

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meeting that you go to in the evening on
sunday and um...

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uh...

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and i have people chatting with me right
now

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complete wondering where this is
happening so on this point some aragon

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uh...

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so yeah and the church we have this
conception of a fire size government ye

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evening here you go to the the church
building and sit down in the chapel and

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here's some great talks

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arm but i think

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the idea that by the fireside discussion
actually kind of

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originated

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uh... in a little bit earlier i'm not
sure how early and and uh...

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b l d s torture

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that ideal of fireside really came about

0:14:36.800,0:14:42.079
uh... but uh... i maybe rick can now
provides more details there is anwar

0:14:42.079,0:14:46.129
resident historian here to certainly
much more than i do

0:14:46.129,0:14:50.509
well will i remember when that word
started to be used do they're just

0:14:50.509,0:14:53.020
blossom such a thing back in there

0:14:53.020,0:14:57.740
forties and fifties and uh... it was the
well probably early mid sixties

0:14:57.740,0:15:00.170
people started to say over having me

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we call it a fireside

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and uh...

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which has developed from there i think
it's really a mormon construct

0:15:09.070,0:15:12.640
even though the concept of speaking by
the side of the fire goes way back to

0:15:12.640,0:15:17.790
the pre electric days after or sure it's
a it's a as a kind of a mormon thing i

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think

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i guess before that we we calling that
late-term is probably more use you know

0:15:24.550,0:15:28.530
people use to gather together around the
fire to talk right uh... i was kind of

0:15:28.530,0:15:29.730
the idea

0:15:29.730,0:15:30.759
um...

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and uh... so they'll be a scorcher can
pick up on that bend and turn that into

0:15:35.730,0:15:37.750
a meeting i actually i'm funny

0:15:37.750,0:15:41.290
i kind of funny anecdotes about that

0:15:41.290,0:15:44.630
uh... to share just briefly uh... i had
a

0:15:44.630,0:15:45.240
uh...

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a member of another faith and i'm a
member

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uh... friend that i have backed at at
uh... b_y_u_

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and i invited him

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to off fireside it was going to be uh...

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on sunday evening

0:15:59.500,0:16:04.340
and i said yeah come in and he was all
excited and and uh... she wanted to come

0:16:04.340,0:16:08.310
in supporting and we will know more
about the church and everything and

0:16:08.310,0:16:13.890
and then sure enough he he arrived and
uh... jeans and a half and he was ready

0:16:13.890,0:16:15.470
to build the bonfires

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problem

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kind of

0:16:18.660,0:16:23.890
uh... i i i didn't quite prepare him for
that experience

0:16:23.890,0:16:26.580
uh... and so if he thought you know
we're going to we're gonna build

0:16:26.580,0:16:29.159
bonfires and talk around the bonfire
guest

0:16:29.159,0:16:33.319
uh... which isn't quite well you know
what we have in mind but i think it's

0:16:33.319,0:16:36.500
probably a good analogy with uh... with
the temple

0:16:36.500,0:16:39.389
when we talk about the temple talladega
for them

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what others of

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uh... a public face

0:16:42.710,0:16:45.140
think about when we see cumple

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and that's kind of one of the reasons
why we're doing this uh... tonight and

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hopefully uh... if this works out to him

0:16:51.009,0:16:54.570
is a good thing we could continue to do
it alone in the future kinda

0:16:54.570,0:16:55.739
described

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uh... and discussed

0:16:57.400,0:17:00.830
what it is about the time for that so
special

0:17:00.830,0:17:03.430
uh... through the obvious church

0:17:03.430,0:17:07.240
uh... and if you are a hard cock
trimming

0:17:07.240,0:17:12.529
i mean it's music going there for second
wasn't on it

0:17:12.529,0:17:16.289
so we hope this uh... this will be an
opportunity not only for members but

0:17:16.289,0:17:18.790
uh... members of other papers even uh...

0:17:18.790,0:17:23.199
that might be able to listen to these
afire sides in laurel level a bit more

0:17:23.199,0:17:24.940
about where were coming from

0:17:24.940,0:17:27.000
in terms of our temple tradition

0:17:27.000,0:17:29.909
uh... and why we have a temple and what
is uh...

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what is cumple worship

0:17:31.580,0:17:35.820
uh... why is it so important to us those
sorts of questions and and history of

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temples theirs

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an amazing

0:17:38.960,0:17:40.090
rich

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history and heritage

0:17:41.820,0:17:43.510
of temple worship

0:17:43.510,0:17:46.750
going back to the beginning of recorded
history

0:17:46.750,0:17:50.320
and it's really quite fascinating when
you start getting into it and and

0:17:50.320,0:17:52.140
learning about it now and uh...

0:17:52.140,0:17:53.320
studying it

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so we hope to

0:17:54.870,0:17:55.860
uh...

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on surface a lot of that and talk about
it and you know how does that relate to

0:18:00.800,0:18:04.390
to the temple today and that sort of
thing

0:18:04.390,0:18:09.649
some some members whom who might uh...
view this might be able to worried

0:18:09.649,0:18:11.270
but i can see that happening

0:18:11.270,0:18:13.120
uh... that they might uh...

0:18:13.120,0:18:16.990
sailor no uh... they're talking about
the temple

0:18:16.990,0:18:17.720
hospice

0:18:17.720,0:18:19.559
this isn't a good thing

0:18:19.559,0:18:23.280
uh... but no need to worry uh...

0:18:23.280,0:18:26.070
i think were were in good hands here

0:18:26.070,0:18:29.700
i does want to share the stiff a couple
our quotes

0:18:29.700,0:18:30.910
about the temple

0:18:30.910,0:18:34.390
uh... and talking about the couple
specifically selinux

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we know what we're doing what when where
we're going here i'm probably one of the

0:18:38.000,0:18:43.670
best quotes is by uh... president boyd k
packer in one of the best uh...

0:18:43.670,0:18:46.730
lamarca type by most popular

0:18:46.730,0:18:49.180
uh... books about the temple

0:18:49.180,0:18:55.030
i called the holy temple uh... again but
boy yuki packard it in that book are all

0:18:55.030,0:18:56.789
this quote here

0:18:56.789,0:19:01.570
from the book he says uh... quote our
reluctance to speak of the sacred temple

0:19:01.570,0:19:02.860
ordinances

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is not

0:19:03.500,0:19:07.170
anyway an attempt to make them seem more
mysterious

0:19:07.170,0:19:11.120
slow to encourage improper curiosity
about them

0:19:11.120,0:19:13.110
they're kept confidential

0:19:13.110,0:19:16.530
lest they be given to those who are
unprepared

0:19:16.530,0:19:18.080
there are some blessings

0:19:18.080,0:19:21.820
which can be split be bestowed only in
the words temple

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and we do not talk of them outside the
temple

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we are not free to discuss the temple
ordinances and ceremonies

0:19:29.330,0:19:33.090
without the spiritual atmosphere of the
temple itself and without the within us

0:19:33.090,0:19:36.289
and preparation required of those who go
there

0:19:36.289,0:19:39.820
the temple ceremonies would not be
quickly understood and might be quite

0:19:39.820,0:19:41.810
misunderstood

0:19:41.810,0:19:44.890
and then here's the here's the key
points he says

0:19:44.890,0:19:47.620
while we cannot discuss in detail

0:19:47.620,0:19:50.270
the temple ordinances and ceremonies

0:19:50.270,0:19:52.170
their is much

0:19:52.170,0:19:54.610
we can discuss in this book

0:19:54.610,0:19:59.580
and we will and that's in the very the
very first uh... chapter i believe uh...

0:19:59.580,0:20:01.460
of the holy temple uh...

0:20:01.460,0:20:05.520
and then he goes on of course the rest
of the book talking about the doctrines

0:20:05.520,0:20:07.350
and principles in history

0:20:07.350,0:20:09.460
and that the great richness

0:20:09.460,0:20:12.120
um... of the of the temple

0:20:12.120,0:20:14.240
and so yes there are

0:20:14.240,0:20:19.290
certain things about the temple we can
discuss i i wouldn't ever who want to

0:20:19.290,0:20:24.510
start talking in detail about the temple
it's not uh... not appropriate there

0:20:24.510,0:20:29.320
i take my covenants on my temple
covenants very

0:20:29.320,0:20:31.980
uh... and they're not uh... they're not

0:20:31.980,0:20:36.429
supposed to be discussed outside of
those secrets walls bob

0:20:36.429,0:20:40.600
but just like that president carter says
there is much we can discuss

0:20:40.600,0:20:43.770
that doesn't go into detail about are

0:20:43.770,0:20:47.409
modern temple our rights

0:20:47.409,0:20:52.130
uh... for example we can talk a lot
about history of of uh... of temples

0:20:52.130,0:20:54.929
throughout history much in the same way
that you mid-week

0:20:54.929,0:20:55.659
did

0:20:55.659,0:20:58.309
uh... in during much of his career

0:20:58.309,0:21:00.099
um... and speaking of headway

0:21:00.099,0:21:01.070
passionately

0:21:01.070,0:21:06.060
uh... i have a another quote here from q
nobly add that i think is relevant here

0:21:06.060,0:21:08.490
he said arm

0:21:08.490,0:21:09.710
quote what

0:21:09.710,0:21:11.360
what the mormons like best

0:21:11.360,0:21:14.909
about their temples as the obligation of
secrecy

0:21:14.909,0:21:16.950
that exonerates them

0:21:16.950,0:21:18.759
from ever having to speak

0:21:18.759,0:21:20.710
and hence to think

0:21:20.710,0:21:25.440
about what they have learned by the
ordinances and teachings

0:21:25.440,0:21:27.300
so strictly our

0:21:27.300,0:21:32.020
or are they in observing the
confidential nature of those teachings

0:21:32.020,0:21:33.580
that may for the most part

0:21:33.580,0:21:38.580
scrupulously avoid dropping so much as i
can't outsiders by putting any of them

0:21:38.580,0:21:40.590
into practice

0:21:40.590,0:21:42.480
uh... and quote that's

0:21:42.480,0:21:46.580
that's that's peer in there doing their
fifty if you ask me

0:21:46.580,0:21:48.970
that is vintage deadly backpack

0:21:48.970,0:21:49.879
uh... bryce

0:21:49.879,0:21:53.980
yes go ahead hav i'd just had a call
from gary he's back

0:21:53.980,0:21:57.400
event that he would like to uh...

0:21:57.400,0:22:01.860
coming and if you can send him at the
station systems computer

0:22:01.860,0:22:05.980
uh... what what is his uh... is he
signed up on google plus

0:22:05.980,0:22:10.490
he has signed up on google homeless what
is his uh... something with him on uh...

0:22:10.490,0:22:12.990
in almaty sign up with

0:22:12.990,0:22:15.070
gary

0:22:15.070,0:22:17.020
what is the

0:22:17.020,0:22:23.620
email address you used when you signed
up on google plus

0:22:23.620,0:22:28.120
the man

0:22:28.120,0:22:31.159
emo whole hyatt katie eleven

0:22:31.159,0:22:33.080
have but is it

0:22:33.080,0:22:36.010
option emails dot com

0:22:36.010,0:22:39.640
and all i care lebanon jeanette hall hai
k k

0:22:39.640,0:22:41.840
arcade level

0:22:41.840,0:22:46.480
and alexei eleven demo whole i k h

0:22:46.480,0:22:52.169
enlightened saying them at gmail dot com

0:22:52.169,0:22:53.690
every are okay

0:22:53.690,0:22:58.590
so gary you should be getting an
education

0:22:58.590,0:23:00.650
and then you just

0:23:00.650,0:23:02.899
you just click in

0:23:02.899,0:23:05.580
ep i just sent the invite

0:23:05.580,0:23:08.360
have you recieved the invite carry

0:23:08.360,0:23:15.360
sir

0:23:18.170,0:23:20.280
disorder interruption gentleman

0:23:20.280,0:23:21.899
all it's alright whom

0:23:21.899,0:23:25.550
i think we definitely want gary anderson
and all of us

0:23:25.550,0:23:28.620
uh... while he is uh... well he's

0:23:28.620,0:23:32.900
finding the link their perhaps i could
do a a short day intro

0:23:32.900,0:23:34.320
gary

0:23:34.320,0:23:37.990
while he's coming in jimmy

0:23:37.990,0:23:40.580
darien endure

0:23:40.580,0:23:44.610
this is the kind of a bio here on the
people carry amak

0:23:44.610,0:23:46.600
gerry mine

0:23:46.600,0:23:49.830
all right

0:23:49.830,0:23:51.940
well what do you go to

0:23:51.940,0:23:58.940
plus dot google dot com

0:23:59.330,0:24:03.870
narratives definitely helpful appears
abha start google dot com and login you

0:24:03.870,0:24:08.160
what you want if you want to get on the
internet and go to plus peel u_s_ dot

0:24:08.160,0:24:15.160
google dot com

0:24:15.160,0:24:17.230
asta

0:24:17.230,0:24:19.250
blushed

0:24:19.250,0:24:21.360
p_r_ u_s_ dot googled

0:24:21.360,0:24:24.720
dot com

0:24:24.720,0:24:31.720
mhm

0:24:33.300,0:24:39.370
leader we he's there and places to hit
use at post dot google dot com invited

0:24:39.370,0:24:40.530
in right now

0:24:40.530,0:24:45.570
soon the invite initiative gerry there's
a little window pop up

0:24:45.570,0:24:48.920
that uh... invites you to

0:24:48.920,0:24:55.920
could click conjoined

0:25:14.690,0:25:17.840
do you see anything

0:25:17.840,0:25:20.990
human

0:25:20.990,0:25:27.990
if you can see you that's a start and

0:25:33.580,0:25:37.560
btw

0:25:37.560,0:25:40.820
you might need to go back to all of
those uh... permission settings has been

0:25:40.820,0:25:43.100
just a zillion dead-heat

0:25:43.100,0:25:45.429
uh... up in the

0:25:45.429,0:25:48.600
up in the upper left-hand corner good
uh... might or might read about gary

0:25:48.600,0:25:50.860
through this and you do the intro

0:25:50.860,0:25:56.860
okay thanks

0:25:56.860,0:26:02.650
uh... cell has us and night here on the
academy for temple studies website is a

0:26:02.650,0:26:06.230
shore bio about gary anderson his uh...
joining our

0:26:06.230,0:26:11.309
our discussion as we speak uh... walking
through all the technical hurdles

0:26:11.309,0:26:15.750
to get in here uh... deaf or not an easy
thing

0:26:15.750,0:26:19.640
well will uh... over the special there
but i i do wanna introducing here as it

0:26:19.640,0:26:20.650
says here

0:26:20.650,0:26:22.270
uh... there's one logan

0:26:22.270,0:26:26.190
uh... bred to be a degree at uh... utah
state

0:26:26.190,0:26:29.600
and political science online a russian

0:26:29.600,0:26:34.090
you received this commission has a
second lieutenant in the u_s_ army

0:26:34.090,0:26:39.809
after serving as a commander of the
r_o_t_c_ detachment

0:26:39.809,0:26:42.970
i guess i'll just keep waiting upon
graduation he was accepted into law

0:26:42.970,0:26:44.960
school at university of utah

0:26:44.960,0:26:46.409
and worked in

0:26:46.409,0:26:47.980
gubernatorial

0:26:47.980,0:26:49.680
uh... campaign one summer

0:26:49.680,0:26:52.320
and then the next year of the law clerk
at the attorney general's office

0:26:52.320,0:26:55.660
promising his law degree he took the bar
examination

0:26:55.660,0:26:58.870
and while waiting the results completed
officer training

0:26:58.870,0:26:59.950
in indiana

0:26:59.950,0:27:03.419
successfully passing utah bar exam he
was hired by the law firm of hilliard

0:27:03.419,0:27:07.409
and gonna logan utah where he has
practiced since that time specializing

0:27:07.409,0:27:09.840
in business and state planning pension
law

0:27:09.840,0:27:14.280
the firms now known this career anderson
and wilson

0:27:14.280,0:27:17.970
let's see how we're doing here

0:27:17.970,0:27:20.830
looks like he's still working on it

0:27:20.830,0:27:27.020
ct

0:27:27.020,0:27:30.340
uh... he has been a member of a more
women are history association for more

0:27:30.340,0:27:34.350
than twenty years and has presented
papers on cache valley history

0:27:34.350,0:27:36.990
we offer the paprika logan's historic
main street

0:27:36.990,0:27:40.320
that is distributed to the nurse to
acquaint them with the history of logan

0:27:40.320,0:27:41.350
utah

0:27:41.350,0:27:45.500
he also helped produce his uh...
historical pieces on logan canyon

0:27:45.500,0:27:48.289
recently worked on joint effort to
produce the

0:27:48.289,0:27:49.519
cache valley heritage

0:27:49.519,0:27:51.429
driving poor and map

0:27:51.429,0:27:55.210
this transient has shared his expertise
as a an attorney in many different civic

0:27:55.210,0:27:58.490
passengers including appointments to the
logan city probable or

0:27:58.490,0:28:01.600
an assault para palace of fine arts
advisory board

0:28:01.600,0:28:05.370
is a founding member of the couple arts
alliance and the utah fistful

0:28:05.370,0:28:06.690
opera company

0:28:06.690,0:28:10.420
and was instrumental in the renovation
of the uh... ellen eccles theater he

0:28:10.420,0:28:13.280
returned alone in nineteen ninety eight
after serving as president of the russia

0:28:13.280,0:28:16.480
saint petersburg mission of the church
of jesus christ

0:28:16.480,0:28:20.180
a lot of the status or call me plus the
more of history

0:28:20.180,0:28:24.380
and is presently serving on the board at
of the american west heritage foundation

0:28:24.380,0:28:27.260
and the cash valley regional council

0:28:27.260,0:28:31.760
is has been to cheryl and over two five
children

0:28:31.760,0:28:32.910
saw that's

0:28:32.910,0:28:36.240
not scaring anderson one uh... who were
trying to help

0:28:36.240,0:28:42.880
get into our conversation here and as
you can see there op on the uh...

0:28:42.880,0:28:46.110
on the temple academy for temple study
site

0:28:46.110,0:28:46.950
uh...

0:28:46.950,0:28:49.550
she is one of the presenters at that
conference

0:28:49.550,0:28:51.870
uh... looking forward to that

0:28:51.870,0:28:58.120
uh... and i think if i a switch over
here to the schedule

0:28:58.120,0:29:00.130
agencies he will be giving the welcome

0:29:00.130,0:29:01.460
uh... in fact

0:29:01.460,0:29:05.980
to the conference so he's been
instrumental and no i having worked with

0:29:05.980,0:29:07.100
uh...

0:29:07.100,0:29:08.070
uh...

0:29:08.070,0:29:09.480
rakesh cubicle

0:29:09.480,0:29:13.820
uh... vent that he's been instrumental
in getting this conference organized and

0:29:13.820,0:29:15.970
started and and and going

0:29:15.970,0:29:20.039
on then we sure appreciate uh... all
that because i i

0:29:20.039,0:29:22.330
i for one of the and very excited

0:29:22.330,0:29:23.690
uh... about this

0:29:23.690,0:29:26.960
this conference are coming up in the pop
over

0:29:26.960,0:29:28.730
roster

0:29:28.730,0:29:32.780
tonight valujet ask you a favorite ok
short

0:29:32.780,0:29:37.070
what i'm going to ask you to do is to
call gary okay

0:29:37.070,0:29:40.070
and try to get him on because i'm not
there

0:29:40.070,0:29:44.340
capable of doing this ok um... let me
give you his

0:29:44.340,0:29:45.400
gary

0:29:45.400,0:29:47.610
should i give him your um...

0:29:47.610,0:29:50.360
your uh... mobile home

0:29:50.360,0:29:55.640
kiki let us know ninja eric

0:29:55.640,0:29:59.210
you can you can you can see the four of
us

0:29:59.210,0:30:03.120
or popped

0:30:03.120,0:30:08.940
locate you know if you didn't shed a
associate criminal negligence video

0:30:08.940,0:30:13.630
because coming out of there you are here
you are doing it now up at the top

0:30:13.630,0:30:15.950
there's a microphone

0:30:15.950,0:30:21.060
and if it has a slash through it and
it's hard

0:30:21.060,0:30:23.700
many macalester college and there

0:30:23.700,0:30:27.680
the israeli callout

0:30:27.680,0:30:29.110
later

0:30:29.110,0:30:33.249
welcome gary add to this uh... temple
study uh...

0:30:33.249,0:30:34.500
google

0:30:34.500,0:30:38.900
hangouts on air discussion is kind of a
long picked up

0:30:38.900,0:30:41.130
a long term for excess

0:30:41.130,0:30:43.810
louise we sure appreciate you being here

0:30:43.810,0:30:45.920
and making it in my eye

0:30:45.920,0:30:47.500
you even uh...

0:30:47.500,0:30:48.700
uh... in late

0:30:48.700,0:30:51.940
we are sure welcome to have you

0:30:51.940,0:30:55.060
we kind of a party introduce you but i
don't know if you wanna say just a

0:30:55.060,0:30:57.900
couple words about uh... about uh...

0:30:57.900,0:31:03.010
where you come from and and and what
your interest is in the temple

0:31:03.010,0:31:08.590
he he's read us the biotech is on that
he academy for careful study society ok

0:31:08.590,0:31:10.270
so they know that much

0:31:10.270,0:31:14.320
well actually i just came from a temple
st discussion by family we've been

0:31:14.320,0:31:15.489
reading yet

0:31:15.489,0:31:17.159
u_n_ butler's book show

0:31:17.159,0:31:19.280
player graciously s

0:31:19.280,0:31:20.630
all right

0:31:20.630,0:31:23.820
i don't know if you'd heard about that
has been has opened my eyes and ears and

0:31:23.820,0:31:25.880
works in his book of mormon

0:31:25.880,0:31:27.390
about that

0:31:27.390,0:31:28.770
wonderful

0:31:28.770,0:31:32.609
i think australia be there looked a
little bit late at night

0:31:32.609,0:31:34.690
orchestrated

0:31:34.690,0:31:36.560
uh...

0:31:36.560,0:31:37.470
listen in

0:31:37.470,0:31:41.050
e actually i uh... just wedded to
everybody to tell me what your neighbor

0:31:41.050,0:31:42.269
and then we'll go from there

0:31:42.269,0:31:46.070
cattle yeah we can do it surely try
again for are

0:31:46.070,0:31:50.330
i'm bryce came in under the founding
editor of temple study dot com uh... who

0:31:50.330,0:31:51.590
won the kinda

0:31:51.590,0:31:54.200
put this thing together

0:31:54.200,0:31:58.360
and of course you know uh... rick

0:31:58.360,0:32:00.490
here we have steve breed

0:32:00.490,0:32:01.560
uh...

0:32:01.560,0:32:04.700
nor do i shortage or get a view st

0:32:04.700,0:32:10.320
show that i'm uh... graphic designer
truly needing las vegas on a

0:32:10.320,0:32:14.470
uh... do cross temple city several years
ago and

0:32:14.470,0:32:17.750
you just want the content of love
talking about the tells will learn about

0:32:17.750,0:32:19.610
going there and

0:32:19.610,0:32:22.390
everything so i'm here on he wrote
mostly

0:32:22.390,0:32:26.960
uh... i i'd really like i said to learn
from all of you guys here

0:32:26.960,0:32:28.210
you know there's a

0:32:28.210,0:32:32.460
collection of knowledge in a just want
to learn from other people sucking

0:32:32.460,0:32:35.269
himself

0:32:35.269,0:32:38.210
welfare but they have it steve

0:32:38.210,0:32:38.929
tenia

0:32:38.929,0:32:42.240
could you do just a quick uh...
interview as well

0:32:42.240,0:32:48.520
assure him country which is the reason
is still a hook a little uh... and uh...

0:32:48.520,0:32:51.960
there in the book of uh... more than
live sector

0:32:51.960,0:32:56.570
and another crystalline cult favorite to
look

0:32:56.570,0:32:58.710
miracle great website

0:32:58.710,0:33:03.590
great-great websites sure appreciate
having on the teddy here with us

0:33:03.590,0:33:04.730
all right

0:33:04.730,0:33:09.210
so sorry for the uh... hiatus their but
uh... really we really wanted very

0:33:09.210,0:33:15.450
enormous a discussion because he does
not know a lot about the temple as well

0:33:15.450,0:33:17.370
and is a close friend of work

0:33:17.370,0:33:21.100
and so we would definitely wanted him
and so we uh...

0:33:21.100,0:33:23.929
appreciate uh... here's your patience
with us

0:33:23.929,0:33:28.299
now we are what we're talking about
before we brought in that gary was um...

0:33:28.299,0:33:33.340
about this fact bit there are a lot of
things about the counsel that we should

0:33:33.340,0:33:34.110
not

0:33:34.110,0:33:37.220
be discussing outside of the ample

0:33:37.220,0:33:40.910
in fact doing so would profane those
things and we'll talk a little bit about

0:33:40.910,0:33:42.940
you know what the differences between

0:33:42.940,0:33:44.570
the sacred in the propane

0:33:44.570,0:33:47.510
uh... you know sacred stays inside the
temple

0:33:47.510,0:33:48.850
it's not taken out

0:33:48.850,0:33:51.270
uh... of the temple

0:33:51.270,0:33:54.050
into the propane space uh...

0:33:54.050,0:33:57.550
and uh... so talk a little bit about
that than what president packer set on

0:33:57.550,0:33:58.820
the subject

0:33:58.820,0:34:02.090
uh... but then we also know that the
president packer has said that there is

0:34:02.090,0:34:07.290
much we can discuss and then he goes on
to this talk a lot about the temple m

0:34:07.290,0:34:09.269
his book the holy temple

0:34:09.269,0:34:14.729
and so it there are many things of
principles doctrines artistry inches

0:34:14.729,0:34:15.669
temples

0:34:15.669,0:34:20.410
uh... that bizarre perfectly uh...
variegated to this uh...

0:34:20.410,0:34:24.719
discussed learn about study and which
are quite quite

0:34:24.719,0:34:26.970
quite uh... allot uh...

0:34:26.970,0:34:28.290
to our modern-day

0:34:28.290,0:34:31.659
a couple of some help us understand more
about the temple

0:34:31.659,0:34:35.719
on the show quote permanently i will
repeat back on but there is another one

0:34:35.719,0:34:37.889
here by president benson where he

0:34:37.889,0:34:41.349
also expresses the sentiment that we
need to do more

0:34:41.349,0:34:46.119
uh... in terms of talking about the
temple and and studying it and learning

0:34:46.119,0:34:48.219
about it

0:34:48.219,0:34:51.639
so obviously that presidents and said
this quote

0:34:51.639,0:34:54.319
because of the temples sacredness

0:34:54.319,0:34:57.669
we are sometimes reluctant to say
anything

0:34:57.669,0:35:01.779
about the temple to our children and
grandchildren

0:35:01.779,0:35:06.240
as a consequence many do not developing
a real desire to go to the temple

0:35:06.240,0:35:11.220
well when they'd go in there they do so
without much background to prepare them

0:35:11.220,0:35:16.259
for the obligations and covenants they
enter into

0:35:16.259,0:35:21.319
gems close quote so that's president
benson on you know uh... who was a

0:35:21.319,0:35:26.660
profit majority president of the church
who said that weekend

0:35:26.660,0:35:29.239
we can take uh...

0:35:29.239,0:35:31.599
are

0:35:31.599,0:35:33.599
i don't know what the word is

0:35:33.599,0:35:36.809
tar

0:35:36.809,0:35:40.869
not speaking of the temple to such an
extent that

0:35:40.869,0:35:44.259
we don't even teacher to our own
children

0:35:44.259,0:35:45.889
on expects

0:35:45.889,0:35:48.529
that's a kind of sad i think it

0:35:48.529,0:35:52.579
i think the word you're looking for his
reticence

0:35:52.579,0:35:56.459
uh... if i may have just a couple of
things

0:35:56.459,0:36:01.769
in a discussion with one of the general
authorities on this very subject

0:36:01.769,0:36:07.809
he said to me really there are only two
things we cannot talk about

0:36:07.809,0:36:10.239
we cannot talk about

0:36:10.239,0:36:14.479
in public the marks on the garments and
what they mean and we cannot talk about

0:36:14.479,0:36:17.119
the science of tokens

0:36:17.119,0:36:20.209
other than that ifor judicious

0:36:20.209,0:36:22.949
all the rest of it we can talk about

0:36:22.949,0:36:27.249
uh... in a enough solomon sacred way

0:36:27.249,0:36:29.819
president mckay at gave a talk

0:36:29.819,0:36:32.409
to outgoing missionaries

0:36:32.409,0:36:36.519
this was in nineteen oh that was
nineteen forty two

0:36:36.519,0:36:40.329
missionaries for all gathered in the
chapel i think in the old salt lake

0:36:40.329,0:36:41.739
temple annex

0:36:41.739,0:36:43.899
doesn't it look easy

0:36:43.899,0:36:47.249
and he gave them a talk about the temple
and he said when i first went to the

0:36:47.249,0:36:49.129
template totally unprepared

0:36:49.129,0:36:51.109
and i thought it was very weird

0:36:51.109,0:36:56.049
i said so i i want to explain to use it
as a very good talk of charts on the net

0:36:56.049,0:37:00.459
someplace

0:37:00.459,0:37:03.689
but he made it clear that there are
things that can be discussed in quite a

0:37:03.689,0:37:04.879
few of them

0:37:04.879,0:37:10.430
if we're not prepared temple chi is so
different

0:37:10.430,0:37:13.979
from anything wellness today

0:37:13.979,0:37:15.259
that uh...

0:37:15.259,0:37:19.889
uh... unless people are prepared for
they just find it strange

0:37:19.889,0:37:24.299
i get it i get a lesson learned to cope
with three sundays ago now with thirteen

0:37:24.299,0:37:25.479
which is they are

0:37:25.479,0:37:27.459
clearly temple text

0:37:27.459,0:37:28.859
and uh... in

0:37:28.859,0:37:33.419
practicing my remarks and subject to
substitute that day in sunday school

0:37:33.419,0:37:36.899
i went to the same issue of what can we
talk about in the temple let me read to

0:37:36.899,0:37:39.329
you about what james e talents and about

0:37:39.329,0:37:40.689
what goes on temple

0:37:40.689,0:37:43.289
there must be worked out of the war

0:37:43.289,0:37:46.729
the template download as administered a
modern temples includes a recital of the

0:37:46.729,0:37:49.469
most prominent eventually create period

0:37:49.469,0:37:52.379
the condition of our first parents in
the garden of eden

0:37:52.379,0:37:56.359
disobedience in consequence expulsion
from that blissful about

0:37:56.359,0:38:00.589
their condition in the one hundred world
have been killed by labor in sweat

0:38:00.589,0:38:04.119
by redemption by which the great
transgression maybe atoned

0:38:04.119,0:38:06.219
the period of the great apostasy

0:38:06.219,0:38:09.839
restoration of the gospel flow sanction
powers and garages

0:38:09.839,0:38:13.069
absolutely indispensable condition
personal purity and devotion to the

0:38:13.069,0:38:15.970
right to present life in strict
compliance

0:38:15.970,0:38:18.289
with gospel requirements

0:38:18.289,0:38:21.709
and then present benson talk because i
was going to talk about the order of the

0:38:21.709,0:38:24.889
son of god which is talked about an hour
thirteen

0:38:24.889,0:38:28.949
he said uh... to enter into the order of
the son of god is equivalent to dave

0:38:28.949,0:38:33.699
entering into the full of smoke as the
priesthood which is only received in the

0:38:33.699,0:38:35.809
house of the lord

0:38:35.809,0:38:39.479
now if you put that together with what
we learn from our marker about the

0:38:39.479,0:38:43.799
temple and margaret is a good friend of
the rex and i

0:38:43.799,0:38:46.160
your there's no what you can talk about

0:38:46.160,0:38:50.529
in the date that goes on the temple just
by reading margaret barker cape

0:38:50.529,0:38:54.999
literally she's not even a member of the
church may remember the church

0:38:54.999,0:38:58.869
and uh... i was hurt but we're talking
today about uh...

0:38:58.869,0:39:02.949
uh... there's a reference uh... don
bradley talked about a reference in in

0:39:02.949,0:39:06.999
but the warm about ether on in the fare
conference couple days ago

0:39:06.999,0:39:10.390
any jackie about the hand going through
the mail

0:39:10.390,0:39:13.649
well ok it's right there in the book of
mormon number one the number two notes

0:39:13.649,0:39:17.939
on the front page it's on the cover of
two murder workers box

0:39:17.939,0:39:19.140
now wool

0:39:19.140,0:39:22.689
idea i agree with recruiters

0:39:22.689,0:39:28.259
if his on his work judiciously and we
were not uh...

0:39:28.259,0:39:33.239
doing anything that's uh... out of the
ordinary in terms of just talking about

0:39:33.239,0:39:34.859
but actually out there

0:39:34.859,0:39:38.420
and i and i'm not talking about going on
the internet and finding the temple

0:39:38.420,0:39:42.339
ordinances that that holds the ceremony
i'm not talking about that i'm talking

0:39:42.339,0:39:45.119
about legitimate scholarly

0:39:45.119,0:39:47.019
stuff that's out there

0:39:47.019,0:39:48.839
and there

0:39:48.839,0:39:50.969
i've learned a i've learned

0:39:50.969,0:39:55.909
a lot more frankly from margaret barker
about the temple never did before that

0:39:55.909,0:39:58.369
met there just isn't stupid that

0:39:58.369,0:39:59.989
hahaha

0:39:59.989,0:40:04.079
just said just uh... let our viewers
know a little bit uh... we're talking

0:40:04.079,0:40:09.389
about murder barker she has a methodist
scholar who who lives in uh...

0:40:09.389,0:40:12.799
in england where this where what city
and england

0:40:12.799,0:40:16.519
will join us eighty it's little chemical
here a wash

0:40:16.519,0:40:19.660
el carro watchdog assured i've been
there to our house and she is a

0:40:19.660,0:40:20.840
wonderful

0:40:20.840,0:40:22.019
wonderfully

0:40:22.019,0:40:25.330
wonderful it's just an issue just down
the street from the methodist

0:40:25.330,0:40:27.170
opt church

0:40:27.170,0:40:31.590
sophia's which is uh... a methodist
scholar who has come up a recently

0:40:31.590,0:40:37.170
uh... quite a bit him in l bs studies
because of a very unique insights into

0:40:37.170,0:40:41.929
the bible specially the old testament
but really all old testament

0:40:41.929,0:40:43.839
trying to reconstruct

0:40:43.839,0:40:46.259
what may have been lost

0:40:46.259,0:40:50.809
in a very very early periods of the old
testament particularly dealing with

0:40:50.809,0:40:51.500
uh...

0:40:51.500,0:40:54.419
such subjects as much as a victim in etc

0:40:54.419,0:40:59.089
uh... subjects that uh... obviously you
worrying that uh...

0:40:59.089,0:41:03.319
very interestingly in our years as as
latter-day saints

0:41:03.319,0:41:05.849
um... and she has dealt with back

0:41:05.849,0:41:09.909
uh... subject in a very interesting way
and we'll talk i'm sure more about her

0:41:09.909,0:41:11.580
work as we go through

0:41:11.580,0:41:12.589
this book

0:41:12.589,0:41:14.209
uh...

0:41:14.209,0:41:16.229
temple were shocked

0:41:16.229,0:41:21.049
also you know we have been the hope of
the duration talking i went up to date

0:41:21.049,0:41:22.259
ok taka

0:41:22.259,0:41:22.950
abroad

0:41:22.950,0:41:24.739
uh... it is online

0:41:24.739,0:41:29.909
if you will go go up a little mckay salt
lake temple annex

0:41:29.909,0:41:32.769
nineteen forty one

0:41:32.769,0:41:36.519
uh... you pull it up but it's it's to
b_y_u_ idaho site

0:41:36.519,0:41:38.069
okay but it's odd

0:41:38.069,0:41:40.909
lookout um...

0:41:40.909,0:41:42.109
too too

0:41:42.109,0:41:45.799
kind of dr one more day lead to this we
can talk about temple

0:41:45.799,0:41:47.989
okay he ended up

0:41:47.989,0:41:53.359
h_ h_ bancroft history if you talk which
was published in eighteen ninety

0:41:53.359,0:41:55.239
for

0:41:55.239,0:41:58.240
he has a description of the mormon

0:41:58.240,0:41:59.729
temple ceremony

0:41:59.729,0:42:01.839
which is one of the most

0:42:01.839,0:42:05.739
uh...

0:42:05.739,0:42:07.129
girl

0:42:07.129,0:42:08.809
i've ever seen

0:42:08.809,0:42:12.229
and this is a book that was published
under the auspices of the first

0:42:12.229,0:42:16.839
presidency for the first presents he
sent out adds to all latter-day saints

0:42:16.839,0:42:17.960
of the newspaper saying

0:42:17.960,0:42:22.059
we encourage you to buy this book

0:42:22.059,0:42:26.069
uh... and it's a it's a very detailed

0:42:26.069,0:42:29.500
presentation on what just what that
bothered them it is so

0:42:29.500,0:42:35.059
piston they discuss arrogant is called
industry of utah

0:42:35.059,0:42:37.459
h aged and craft

0:42:37.459,0:42:41.159
bancroft was a professional historians
wrote

0:42:41.159,0:42:46.339
industries of a lot of state several of
other things so that the book is the

0:42:46.339,0:42:50.489
book is about of three three-and-a-half
introspection

0:42:50.489,0:42:53.599
um... it's a standard old books

0:42:53.599,0:42:55.549
uh... it's been reprinted

0:42:55.549,0:43:00.270
but uh... you particularly brothers
probably ought to just fine

0:43:00.270,0:43:04.440
them propagated like i say it's this
morning i was surprised at how detailed

0:43:04.440,0:43:08.280
was now especially when i found out that
this book at that advertise to the

0:43:08.280,0:43:13.190
public by the first presence wow so are
interesting all its worth yeah thanks

0:43:13.190,0:43:15.219
for that rainy days

0:43:15.219,0:43:20.739
i've heard that there's still time that
there was of some kind of quotation like

0:43:20.739,0:43:23.469
that that that this president feed it

0:43:23.469,0:43:27.469
had been ok within anne and you know
accrued there

0:43:27.469,0:43:31.409
creditor to pull over done looking for
that i don't think that the other

0:43:31.409,0:43:35.349
remember having what you're talking
protected period

0:43:35.349,0:43:40.379
davin than any other corporate president
mentioned your because it's helpful

0:43:40.379,0:43:44.889
because this is the issue that i was
talking about in practicing my lesson

0:43:44.889,0:43:49.479
traded make sure that i was doing what
was appropriate in sunday school

0:43:49.479,0:43:50.250
and

0:43:50.250,0:43:53.650
then making sure that people did feel
comfortable as we talked about the

0:43:53.650,0:43:55.039
temple

0:43:55.039,0:43:56.439
allusions

0:43:56.439,0:43:57.669
in

0:43:57.669,0:44:02.259
dang thirty min anyway here's represent
bentsen said everything we learn

0:44:02.259,0:44:06.579
in the holy places the temples is based
on the scripture these teachings are

0:44:06.579,0:44:11.229
what the scriptures refer to as the
mysteries of godliness gave me a copy of

0:44:11.229,0:44:14.619
it by the paralegals for the lord has
given his promise

0:44:14.619,0:44:18.809
to his faithful in a medium servants now
mayor snow the mysteries and peaceful

0:44:18.809,0:44:21.729
things that's and doctor james forty to
sixty one

0:44:21.729,0:44:27.599
well ricochet this other book i'm going
to try to find the records for this time

0:44:27.599,0:44:31.679
um... when president bentsen's where he
said what i would hope that he would

0:44:31.679,0:44:35.389
talk to mike grandchildren about as far
as the devils concerns

0:44:35.389,0:44:41.029
that the you get that have been
considered your region interview

0:44:41.029,0:44:44.589
he said

0:44:44.589,0:44:46.549
absolutely uh...

0:44:46.549,0:44:47.769
i think

0:44:47.769,0:44:51.509
you know just generally speaking if if

0:44:51.509,0:44:54.899
you know where in tune with the spirit
especially

0:44:54.899,0:44:56.029
um...

0:44:56.029,0:44:58.990
then i think he will know and

0:44:58.990,0:45:02.690
be able to pass the smell test when it
comes to

0:45:02.690,0:45:06.199
whether or not we should be talking
about something

0:45:06.199,0:45:09.089
i table one myself

0:45:09.089,0:45:13.529
don't like to really talk a lot about
martin temple

0:45:13.529,0:45:15.400
uh... i do and you know

0:45:15.400,0:45:18.749
doctrines and principles and things like
that

0:45:18.749,0:45:23.639
where i really like to study the temple
is in is in the past

0:45:23.639,0:45:25.260
and like i said before

0:45:25.260,0:45:28.920
but studying and and this is exactly
what you know we did

0:45:28.920,0:45:33.109
right uh... he brought up all of these
very interesting

0:45:33.109,0:45:35.559
uh... parallels you call them

0:45:35.559,0:45:37.619
uh... with uh... what

0:45:37.619,0:45:39.539
happens to be

0:45:39.539,0:45:42.249
and they shed quite a bit a white

0:45:42.249,0:45:47.149
on our understanding without talking
about the details of all of the actual

0:45:47.149,0:45:49.279
modern-day rights

0:45:49.279,0:45:52.900
you know so that that's a good example
to follow uh...

0:45:52.900,0:45:54.380
deadly was the master

0:45:54.380,0:45:55.390
okay

0:45:55.390,0:45:57.839
absolutely

0:45:57.839,0:46:02.149
in van crossed if you can get your hands
on it

0:46:02.149,0:46:08.279
page just three fifty seven and three
fifty eight

0:46:08.279,0:46:09.469
wonderful

0:46:09.469,0:46:10.759
good to have a reference

0:46:10.759,0:46:14.579
in and i was sick in which you do see
addressing that

0:46:14.579,0:46:18.079
honestly i never to talk about the
promoters temple i just let people

0:46:18.079,0:46:23.139
resonate let me know when you are
restarted

0:46:23.139,0:46:24.479
is is

0:46:24.479,0:46:25.939
historical

0:46:25.939,0:46:29.059
and then just uh... where people grow
their own

0:46:29.059,0:46:32.569
assumptions from what you're saying if
those who've been through the temple and

0:46:32.569,0:46:33.999
are sensitive to that

0:46:33.999,0:46:37.939
they know exactly what you're talking
about prescribed leaders with neighbors

0:46:37.939,0:46:41.419
and that's when the belief that often he
said you know the

0:46:41.419,0:46:45.030
endowed latter-day saints will know what
i'm talking about here

0:46:45.030,0:46:47.919
unifi

0:46:47.919,0:46:49.429
earlier

0:46:49.429,0:46:53.490
all right well let's now that it's uh...
normally thirty

0:46:53.490,0:46:55.430
should we jump into the texas

0:46:55.430,0:46:56.819
let's

0:46:56.819,0:46:58.549
uh...

0:46:58.549,0:47:01.819
but i think this has been a good
introduction i think this is important

0:47:01.819,0:47:06.189
uh... to uh... to uh... lead viewers
understand and no

0:47:06.189,0:47:09.219
yes there are certain things we
shouldn't be talking about

0:47:09.219,0:47:16.219
uh... we we capital we uh... recognize
that

0:47:16.719,0:47:18.389
but there is

0:47:18.389,0:47:22.419
yet still a lot we can talk about it so
we should elect those things that we

0:47:22.419,0:47:26.299
know shouldn't talk about and the
details of the ordinances and ceremonies

0:47:26.299,0:47:30.289
of our modern-day temple prevents us
from studying the tampa learning more

0:47:30.289,0:47:32.680
about it and creasing understanding
which

0:47:32.680,0:47:36.929
helps to build faith and so forth and in
fact if we go into the tax

0:47:36.929,0:47:43.289
now um... of of temple worship surface
is a book by andrew c scanner

0:47:43.289,0:47:44.059
um...

0:47:44.059,0:47:46.189
and uh...

0:47:46.189,0:47:48.329
i'd like to just do a quick

0:47:48.329,0:47:50.269
uh...

0:47:50.269,0:47:54.969
just a quick introductions burns book i
read it up years ago cannot two thousand

0:47:54.969,0:47:56.329
seven

0:47:56.329,0:47:58.089
and uh...

0:47:58.089,0:48:02.259
hi i read it i thought it was very good
in fact uh... i highlighted quite a bit

0:48:02.259,0:48:05.290
of that on when i went through it and i
thought gee

0:48:05.290,0:48:08.299
touched on a lot of what really great
points

0:48:08.299,0:48:12.369
or enchant and watermen everything in
between

0:48:12.369,0:48:13.609
uh... quite

0:48:13.609,0:48:17.460
wide-ranging and i think it's because of
his background he he's quite

0:48:17.460,0:48:19.399
knowledgeable offered

0:48:19.399,0:48:22.540
uh... and obvious read overall short bio
here

0:48:22.540,0:48:24.729
uh... and you see scanner is a professor

0:48:24.729,0:48:28.899
of ancient scripture at brigham young
university i was dean of the religious

0:48:28.899,0:48:30.569
educate

0:48:30.569,0:48:34.669
and the first executive director of you
are using the link next month

0:48:34.669,0:48:36.259
scholarship

0:48:36.259,0:48:39.429
he holds a master's degrees in biblical
hebrew

0:48:39.429,0:48:44.479
and jewish studies and a p_h_d_ in near
eastern european history a special

0:48:44.479,0:48:46.789
specializing in judaism

0:48:46.789,0:48:49.739
he is the author or cooper

0:48:49.739,0:48:52.629
of over one hundred publications

0:48:52.629,0:48:53.849
so i can do this

0:48:53.849,0:48:57.409
give your background parenthesis killer
who wrote this book

0:48:57.409,0:49:00.299
and uh... this is what it looks like

0:49:00.299,0:49:01.979
there's the cover

0:49:01.979,0:49:03.379
and uh...

0:49:03.379,0:49:05.069
let me show you

0:49:05.069,0:49:07.239
we're going to talk about me

0:49:07.239,0:49:09.759
you can see that there's my notes

0:49:09.759,0:49:11.029
for uh... here

0:49:11.029,0:49:13.589
for this

0:49:13.589,0:49:15.389
uh... as i was staying

0:49:15.389,0:49:16.319
uh...

0:49:16.319,0:49:20.899
dr skin actually introduces his book
talking a little bit about the subject

0:49:20.899,0:49:24.769
of of what is alright to talk about

0:49:24.769,0:49:26.350
and and what's not to

0:49:26.350,0:49:30.969
and uh... obviously the first paragraph
this volume touches on truths

0:49:30.969,0:49:32.650
that we make a leaner

0:49:32.650,0:49:35.700
from our experiences in the house of the
lord

0:49:35.700,0:49:39.679
and which can bless our lives and
strengthen our testimonies

0:49:39.679,0:49:44.309
so it just starting out right there he
he notes how learning more about the

0:49:44.309,0:49:45.399
temple

0:49:45.399,0:49:49.499
can bless our lives and strengthen our
testimony sepsis

0:49:49.499,0:49:53.139
now let's after one great blessing

0:49:53.139,0:49:57.569
doing this of studying the tampa
learning more about it and i'm applying

0:49:57.569,0:50:00.679
of what we learned into our lives

0:50:00.679,0:50:04.619
uh... he goes on obviously it is not
comprehensive

0:50:04.619,0:50:06.849
it does not reach in detail

0:50:06.849,0:50:09.889
about what happens in the temples of the
lord

0:50:09.889,0:50:14.149
rather discusses the doctrines and
principles on which temple worship is

0:50:14.149,0:50:15.249
founded

0:50:15.249,0:50:19.349
and the blessings the flow from temple
worship

0:50:19.349,0:50:25.229
it came about as the culmination that
and convergence of several developments

0:50:25.229,0:50:28.949
i thought that was interesting when i
read that uh... because the temple self

0:50:28.949,0:50:31.499
really is a culmination convergence

0:50:31.499,0:50:34.389
of the gospel and love life

0:50:34.389,0:50:39.659
all coming together uh... it as the the
pinnacle worry of of our worship in the

0:50:39.659,0:50:40.659
church

0:50:40.659,0:50:43.369
uh... and where were were all going

0:50:43.369,0:50:46.109
um... those are not going to have any
comments

0:50:46.109,0:50:50.519
on on that opening statement there he's
just he's just do that you said this is

0:50:50.519,0:50:52.439
what you can do and i just

0:50:52.439,0:50:55.900
markets really goes down one one one
candle

0:50:55.900,0:51:00.279
casual working but you know that's
available at waist lines are being

0:51:00.279,0:51:03.169
loaded coca breaker

0:51:03.169,0:51:04.529
but i want to get it

0:51:04.529,0:51:08.109
paragraph to no you know

0:51:08.109,0:51:10.989
and now you do it so it's good that

0:51:10.989,0:51:15.199
do you actually want to read that rick

0:51:15.199,0:51:19.189
more than a decade ago i began taking
intensely about statements made by you

0:51:19.189,0:51:21.489
deadly regarding the temple

0:51:21.489,0:51:26.040
he had said profound things troops which
have become a part of me

0:51:26.040,0:51:29.270
my own thoughts in my old work so their
exact expressions

0:51:29.270,0:51:33.199
our original with him

0:51:33.199,0:51:36.209
keep reading or should i go off highs

0:51:36.209,0:51:40.619
you couldn't you can comment on anything
you'd like rick has become the temple

0:51:40.619,0:51:42.779
isn't model of the universe

0:51:42.779,0:51:45.279
buffalo on a star

0:51:45.279,0:51:49.639
um...

0:51:49.639,0:51:52.709
what natalie's exact statement laws

0:51:52.709,0:51:54.369
isabel cleary

0:51:54.369,0:51:55.999
what makes a temple and

0:51:55.999,0:52:00.149
i'd our first time i read this i read it
i went past it

0:52:00.149,0:52:02.700
when i came back and i think what is he
said

0:52:02.700,0:52:03.790
saying here

0:52:03.790,0:52:04.989
i have known

0:52:04.989,0:52:07.359
brother doubly well enough

0:52:07.359,0:52:08.650
and followed him

0:52:08.650,0:52:10.139
long enough

0:52:10.139,0:52:13.869
and spent enough personal time with him

0:52:13.869,0:52:17.339
he doesn't just say throwaway things

0:52:17.339,0:52:18.989
but he says something

0:52:18.989,0:52:20.599
there's something in it

0:52:20.599,0:52:24.209
what makes a temple different from other
buildings

0:52:24.209,0:52:25.609
is not

0:52:25.609,0:52:28.190
it's the sacredness

0:52:28.190,0:52:32.130
but its former and function

0:52:32.130,0:52:36.219
and i always thought you could just
build a building make it nice

0:52:36.219,0:52:37.359
uh...

0:52:37.359,0:52:40.349
and then dedicated to became holy became
a temple

0:52:40.349,0:52:41.569
and the police s

0:52:41.569,0:52:47.349
it's the sacredness has nothing to do
with it is the form and function

0:52:47.349,0:52:53.019
now day continues businesses this is
from his

0:52:53.019,0:52:55.579
probably seven or article in the temple

0:52:55.579,0:52:58.999
he was asked to write this article

0:52:58.999,0:53:03.849
for the dedication off-key temple in
included nineteen fifty-eight

0:53:03.849,0:53:07.479
looked at what we call the london total
to one of the chapel

0:53:07.479,0:53:11.439
he was asked to write this article it
was published in the morning star

0:53:11.439,0:53:13.049
in april of nineteen

0:53:13.049,0:53:14.799
fifty-eight

0:53:14.799,0:53:18.380
so he says what makes a temple differ
from other buildings is not a sacredness

0:53:18.380,0:53:20.449
its form and function

0:53:20.449,0:53:22.229
what is that for

0:53:22.229,0:53:25.989
we can't summarize a hundred studies of
recent dated the formula

0:53:25.989,0:53:27.269
uh... temple

0:53:27.269,0:53:29.099
good or bad

0:53:29.099,0:53:35.209
is a scale model of the universe

0:53:35.209,0:53:37.659
and so many people now

0:53:37.659,0:53:39.839
use the word universe

0:53:39.839,0:53:41.079
as answer

0:53:41.079,0:53:42.460
concept hasn't

0:53:42.460,0:53:44.230
universal discourse

0:53:44.230,0:53:48.390
our personal universe of what we think
annul that's not what i was talking

0:53:48.390,0:53:53.420
about he's talking about the actual
physical cosmos

0:53:53.420,0:53:57.109
and he rails against people who try to
spiritual eyes away

0:53:57.109,0:53:59.879
the physicality of picasso's

0:53:59.879,0:54:01.259
what is that before

0:54:01.259,0:54:03.310
we could summarize a hundred studies in
that

0:54:03.310,0:54:05.419
formula temple good or bad

0:54:05.419,0:54:08.809
is a scale model of the universe

0:54:08.809,0:54:11.709
companies as the first mention of the
word temple

0:54:11.709,0:54:12.989
if i borrow

0:54:12.989,0:54:16.769
jojoba designates a building
specifically designed for interpreting

0:54:16.769,0:54:18.749
science in the heavens

0:54:18.749,0:54:24.049
and sort of observatory or what gets
once bearings on the universe

0:54:24.049,0:54:25.429
uh...

0:54:25.429,0:54:28.809
and then he goes on talking about the
stone

0:54:28.809,0:54:29.750
circles

0:54:29.750,0:54:31.609
holding blackstone edge

0:54:31.609,0:54:35.009
uh... places like a flurry

0:54:35.009,0:54:37.010
people actually work there

0:54:37.010,0:54:38.289
and took

0:54:38.289,0:54:42.520
astronomical sightings on the heavenly
bodies and that his party

0:54:42.520,0:54:45.859
this may believe temple worship

0:54:45.859,0:54:48.499
the route to him in greek and latin

0:54:48.499,0:54:49.569
devotes a casting

0:54:49.569,0:54:52.589
or intersection of two logic right
angles

0:54:52.589,0:54:56.999
the point where the cargo political
witness cross hands for the four regions

0:54:56.999,0:54:58.129
come together

0:54:58.129,0:55:02.099
every couple being carefully oriented to
express the idea pre established harmony

0:55:02.099,0:55:05.249
between a celestial interest real image

0:55:05.249,0:55:07.419
he's getting it here's three

0:55:07.419,0:55:08.899
too

0:55:08.899,0:55:10.679
to build a temple

0:55:10.679,0:55:13.429
you don't just go out find a piece of
land

0:55:13.429,0:55:17.739
and say okay you hear the architect of
our group but at the temple

0:55:17.739,0:55:20.029
in those early days

0:55:20.029,0:55:24.989
the the person who was in charge would
go out

0:55:24.989,0:55:28.469
uh... in fact gerry and i have been
reading a book by uh...

0:55:28.469,0:55:30.419
okay request ebook and

0:55:30.419,0:55:34.959
one of genesis one by that professor
while john walton john walton

0:55:34.959,0:55:37.159
yes in syria

0:55:37.159,0:55:38.330
or via internet

0:55:38.330,0:55:42.590
and i don't think you know what parties
exp explains in this book is the what a

0:55:42.590,0:55:45.140
personal want to go into the bar to
build a temple they would go out at

0:55:45.140,0:55:46.809
night

0:55:46.809,0:55:48.309
and say that

0:55:48.309,0:55:51.100
give the spot or they want to tend to be
built

0:55:51.100,0:55:53.979
and they would cite to the north star

0:55:53.979,0:55:56.750
so they could get exactly north-south

0:55:56.750,0:56:00.399
and then the next day they would set up
their citing posts

0:56:00.399,0:56:04.900
when the sun comes up goes over and
comes down to get exact east and west

0:56:04.900,0:56:10.679
and that's the part of the dakotas it's
the north-south and east-west lines

0:56:10.679,0:56:15.019
and their where they cross check right
attached but with a crossed

0:56:15.019,0:56:18.449
was where they would set up what they
call the umbilical smoothly

0:56:18.449,0:56:20.479
the navel of the world

0:56:20.479,0:56:24.529
and that's what the temple became it
became the place that was

0:56:24.529,0:56:26.309
the naval from which

0:56:26.309,0:56:28.679
all nourishment from heaven came

0:56:28.679,0:56:32.399
antiquity link the three worlds and
leslie goes on to talk about the three

0:56:32.399,0:56:35.409
worlds

0:56:35.409,0:56:40.779
there are three temples one in heaven
wannatter and want to be here

0:56:40.779,0:56:44.179
what do you mean we've built a temple we
need a temple above the earth in a

0:56:44.179,0:56:46.689
temple beneath the year

0:56:46.689,0:56:51.159
all the ancient temples were built with
that tripartite

0:56:51.159,0:56:53.309
horizontal asymmetry

0:56:53.309,0:56:57.729
and the font in the basement represents
the temple below

0:56:57.729,0:57:01.339
the main floor represents the temple
above have been going through the veil

0:57:01.339,0:57:03.609
into the upper part of the temple

0:57:03.609,0:57:07.019
represents the temple on high

0:57:07.019,0:57:11.160
um... heretofore horizontal regions
meets a we have the cross into the cargo

0:57:11.160,0:57:12.459
that coolness

0:57:12.459,0:57:16.399
so we have before horizontal regions and
inventory

0:57:16.399,0:57:17.839
vertical

0:57:17.839,0:57:20.139
uh... worlds

0:57:20.139,0:57:21.349
um...

0:57:21.349,0:57:25.119
everything had to be box to the compass
everything had to be exactly

0:57:25.119,0:57:27.039
north south east and west

0:57:27.039,0:57:28.150
and agent later

0:57:28.150,0:57:30.489
all temples were built that way

0:57:30.489,0:57:31.509
um...

0:57:31.509,0:57:34.199
joseph smith did it

0:57:34.199,0:57:38.839
in cortland joe suspected in all food
and even now when you go to salt lake

0:57:38.839,0:57:42.719
city you go right to the southeast
corner of temple square

0:57:42.719,0:57:46.219
and there's the salt lake basin meridian
marker

0:57:46.219,0:57:48.899
sitting right outside the walls

0:57:48.899,0:57:50.559
that is the cartel

0:57:50.559,0:57:54.420
and the dakotas basis data or some crap

0:57:54.420,0:57:56.189
did the first surveying

0:57:56.189,0:57:59.919
and then the government surveyor came
and checked orson pratt's work and

0:57:59.919,0:58:04.009
thought it was off by about fifty feet
but from those prevented instruments

0:58:04.009,0:58:06.619
you know who would be surprised

0:58:06.619,0:58:09.489
uh... indeed to set up a marker

0:58:09.489,0:58:12.930
and then they build a building over it
and people don't adobe building or orson

0:58:12.930,0:58:15.189
pratt could set his telescope

0:58:15.189,0:58:17.379
and continue to take time

0:58:17.379,0:58:20.109
measurements

0:58:20.109,0:58:23.459
um... and that's what the southeast
corner of trouble square once they had

0:58:23.459,0:58:25.840
to do all that astronomical society

0:58:25.840,0:58:30.179
it order to find exactly how to build a
template bus which was build a building

0:58:30.179,0:58:32.229
there was a lot of ritual

0:58:32.229,0:58:35.989
there was a lot of of siding that had to
pick up a whole p

0:58:35.989,0:58:38.209
in arizona still do this

0:58:38.209,0:58:41.029
in order to set their ceremonies they
talked to say well it'll start of the

0:58:41.029,0:58:43.239
twenty six states july

0:58:43.239,0:58:48.000
they actually have their ceremonies and
ladder that goes out of the whole

0:58:48.000,0:58:49.829
cedar key does

0:58:49.829,0:58:51.029
are

0:58:51.029,0:58:53.950
do exactly the same way there's the cbo
pool at the bottom

0:58:53.950,0:58:55.819
which goes out into the lower world

0:58:55.819,0:59:00.649
theirs to keep a level and then the
letter goes up through hole in the roof

0:59:00.649,0:59:01.979
up into the

0:59:01.979,0:59:03.499
the fourth world

0:59:03.499,0:59:08.799
and date date look zero which stars are
rising

0:59:08.799,0:59:11.719
through the letter dated exactly what
the latter suits

0:59:11.719,0:59:15.019
and the stars you have to rise just
exactly right in order for them to set

0:59:15.019,0:59:16.609
the ceremonies

0:59:16.609,0:59:19.179
uh... and i believe course says that

0:59:19.179,0:59:21.779
the hopis held the closest thing

0:59:21.779,0:59:23.609
to our temple ceremonies

0:59:23.609,0:59:27.019
uh... anybody else on earth its
operations without the free masons

0:59:27.019,0:59:28.639
snap it calms

0:59:28.639,0:59:31.430
um... and and and and then he goes on to
say

0:59:31.430,0:59:33.659
and sort of the hope is that there's

0:59:33.659,0:59:36.479
yeah yeah

0:59:36.479,0:59:37.130
athletics

0:59:37.130,0:59:40.180
they didn't get it from the mason that's
for sure they certainly did not accept

0:59:40.180,0:59:41.349
that

0:59:41.349,0:59:45.019
in fact what did we said was people
think that the masons or the police

0:59:45.019,0:59:46.640
shows have got this and he says

0:59:46.640,0:59:49.979
as dole profit had to rummage through
our gross domestic

0:59:49.979,0:59:52.369
the stock picking is treasury that's
right

0:59:52.369,0:59:54.309
uh...

0:59:54.309,0:59:56.379
uh... you gotta love midway

0:59:56.379,1:00:00.539
in the others think is important about
this is that the uh... actual sequences

1:00:00.539,1:00:02.279
in this guy

1:00:02.279,1:00:05.689
as margaret lee i'm just reading
something were to today's one of the

1:00:05.689,1:00:10.079
things that has to happen on the uh...
summary collapses at the center has to

1:00:10.079,1:00:11.429
go straight

1:00:11.429,1:00:16.149
down at the temple through the east door
and these and goes right into the

1:00:16.149,1:00:21.289
hallway in hallways and eliminates the
gold room that represents the uh...

1:00:21.289,1:00:24.239
we've always this is not talking
historically temples

1:00:24.239,1:00:27.879
and then you'd need to understand the
significance

1:00:27.879,1:00:29.949
will be in

1:00:29.949,1:00:33.419
the uh... table as well as a string
equinox

1:00:33.419,1:00:36.999
and i don't know i just our summary of
the day the importance of when joe smith

1:00:36.999,1:00:38.659
goes to

1:00:38.659,1:00:40.059
uh...

1:00:40.059,1:00:44.830
goes to trying to records for four years
every year

1:00:44.830,1:00:47.939
and should be immune to it won't

1:00:47.939,1:00:49.499
downtown

1:00:49.499,1:00:52.960
effect margaret also talks about uh...
in

1:00:52.960,1:00:55.159
in but biblical description

1:00:55.159,1:00:58.440
he talks about the twelve cater to the
city

1:00:58.440,1:01:03.650
and she says that those gates will not
exactly in the middle of the north and

1:01:03.650,1:01:07.159
south walls of the temple complex

1:01:07.159,1:01:08.340
they were sepa

1:01:08.340,1:01:11.469
so that the sun would shine through
those gates

1:01:11.469,1:01:15.559
at least solstice is at the economic
sense

1:01:15.559,1:01:17.589
so um...

1:01:17.589,1:01:20.439
even the early temples of

1:01:20.439,1:01:25.239
this dispensation were built just that
way so that the sudden could connie m

1:01:25.239,1:01:26.860
shine through certain windows

1:01:26.860,1:01:29.689
and illuminate the holy boats

1:01:29.689,1:01:32.269
that there's a reason the uh...

1:01:32.269,1:01:35.329
the net most temples face

1:01:35.329,1:01:37.369
eastward right

1:01:37.369,1:01:42.519
and there's a reason for that to the you
know the sun rises from the east

1:01:42.519,1:01:46.079
uh... and you know there's a lot of
symbolism in that with the the son of

1:01:46.079,1:01:50.689
god and his resurrection and his return
the second coming will come from the

1:01:50.689,1:01:52.429
east and so forth

1:01:52.429,1:01:55.159
and uh... absolutely

1:01:55.159,1:01:58.319
uh... cherry move on uh... with this
uh...

1:01:58.319,1:02:03.239
but the paragraph um... dame the temple
represents the principle of ordering the

1:02:03.239,1:02:04.639
universe

1:02:04.639,1:02:09.299
the temple is where we get our bearings
regarding our place in the universe

1:02:09.299,1:02:13.149
that those are skinner's works he's
paraphrasing deadly

1:02:13.149,1:02:16.399
neighborly says the temple is the place
where we get our bearings on the

1:02:16.399,1:02:19.079
universe is not our bearings

1:02:19.079,1:02:21.560
uh... spiritually and

1:02:21.560,1:02:23.919
emotionally

1:02:23.919,1:02:27.459
these are actual bearings on the
universe we go and take our own

1:02:27.459,1:02:29.689
sightings now

1:02:29.689,1:02:33.909
to make sure everything is exactly north
south east and west

1:02:33.909,1:02:38.109
uh... book a little supporters skinner
said here

1:02:38.109,1:02:40.199
the temple walls

1:02:40.199,1:02:43.699
and here's the center of civilization

1:02:43.699,1:02:47.230
or as professor dudley said there is no
part of our civilization

1:02:47.230,1:02:50.690
which doesn't have its rise in the
temple

1:02:50.690,1:02:54.869
i've gotta read something here because
of dislikes paragraph

1:02:54.869,1:02:59.679
okay this is why i am i have the same
quote you do

1:02:59.679,1:03:00.929
talking

1:03:00.929,1:03:03.150
this is a deadly the house of life

1:03:03.150,1:03:07.319
where the books were copied and studied
had from the earliest times the aspect

1:03:07.319,1:03:08.689
of the university

1:03:08.689,1:03:09.899
so he says

1:03:09.899,1:03:13.039
he temple is the origin of the
university

1:03:13.039,1:03:15.149
a super graduate school

1:03:15.149,1:03:16.190
their it was

1:03:16.190,1:03:20.419
that all there was that all questions
relating to run it matters were settled

1:03:20.419,1:03:25.109
the place was always part of the temple
of the books contain the earliest poetry

1:03:25.109,1:03:26.279
purple emma

1:03:26.279,1:03:27.599
means creation

1:03:27.599,1:03:30.909
and the business of the news is that the
temple was to sing the creation saw with

1:03:30.909,1:03:32.359
the morning stars

1:03:32.359,1:03:34.779
naturally him listen to music

1:03:34.779,1:03:37.290
and some scholars we derive the first
writing

1:03:37.290,1:03:39.329
tribute musical notation

1:03:39.329,1:03:41.189
it was performed a sacred circle

1:03:41.189,1:03:42.689
or choruses

1:03:42.689,1:03:45.509
uh... that's

1:03:45.509,1:03:49.589
they get discussion i gave a temple
church of margaret king

1:03:49.589,1:03:54.530
uh... temple studies uh... supposed to
go to read into dangerous path

1:03:54.530,1:03:56.469
cosmic green renounce

1:03:56.469,1:04:00.599
yahoo sold at poetry music at the dance

1:04:00.599,1:04:02.130
go out to the world from the temple

1:04:02.130,1:04:05.679
called by the greeks didn't you say on
or shrine of the news

1:04:05.679,1:04:08.899
the creation him was part of the great
dramatic presentation that took place

1:04:08.899,1:04:12.559
here leave the temple dealing with the
following a reduction of man represented

1:04:12.559,1:04:16.399
by various forms of combat making the
place to see that the ritual athletic

1:04:16.399,1:04:19.119
contest sanctified throughout the world

1:04:19.119,1:04:21.970
the olympics back have their origin

1:04:21.970,1:04:23.279
at the capitol

1:04:23.279,1:04:27.899
yeah at the very current uh... subject
of an apparently that ect

1:04:27.899,1:04:31.319
the picture in the contest was the
father of the race the priest king

1:04:31.319,1:04:33.970
himself whose triumphant price
procession

1:04:33.970,1:04:36.829
coronation and marriage took place on
the occasion

1:04:36.829,1:04:39.789
making here's the seat and source of
government

1:04:39.789,1:04:43.569
the king was always crowded the temple
rather than the palace

1:04:43.569,1:04:45.490
the king of england the queen of england

1:04:45.490,1:04:50.050
is crowned and has the the coronation
take place in westminster abbey dr

1:04:50.050,1:04:51.759
dallas

1:04:51.759,1:04:52.849
um...

1:04:52.849,1:04:55.890
since the entire race was expected to be
present for the event

1:04:55.890,1:04:59.480
a busy change of goods from various
distant regions took place

1:04:59.480,1:05:03.189
the booths of pilgrimage serving as the
market booth rick repairers

1:05:03.189,1:05:06.719
of an associate converting areas of
bizarre forms of wealth it acceptable

1:05:06.719,1:05:10.699
offer to the temple led to an active
baking exchange in the temple courts the

1:05:10.699,1:05:11.950
earnest money

1:05:11.950,1:05:14.519
from the shrine and chew gum on a time

1:05:14.519,1:05:16.819
at romance temple money

1:05:16.819,1:05:20.689
since the place began as an observatory
and all things work tied to the calendar

1:05:20.689,1:05:24.579
and the stars mathematics flourish in
astronomy was amused

1:05:24.579,1:05:27.729
history was another news for the rights
were meant for the dead as well as the

1:05:27.729,1:05:28.479
living

1:05:28.479,1:05:32.489
and memorials to for greek once believed
to be an attempted to purge encourage

1:05:32.489,1:05:34.259
the production of a marvelous are too

1:05:34.259,1:05:36.070
oxfordshire of sculpture

1:05:36.070,1:05:37.079
and painting

1:05:37.079,1:05:40.400
which would have cherished anyway as
architectural adornment says the design

1:05:40.400,1:05:42.309
and measurements to be told

1:05:42.309,1:05:45.819
told the temple structure itself as a
sort of scale model of the universe of

1:05:45.819,1:05:50.549
cosmic computerworld important at
another place that lisa said that

1:05:50.549,1:05:51.819
the boston

1:05:51.819,1:05:53.569
the form of sculpture

1:05:53.569,1:05:57.150
known as the bus to which is just from
here up

1:05:57.150,1:05:58.160
did notes

1:05:58.160,1:06:02.599
the dead person being resurrected and
rising from the ground you only see the

1:06:02.599,1:06:05.799
top part of him as it's coming out of
the ground that's where that k_

1:06:05.799,1:06:07.069
interesting

1:06:07.069,1:06:09.059
um...

1:06:09.059,1:06:13.149
the templates ella si road portly
architecture bahar centric structure was

1:06:13.149,1:06:15.819
a primary concern absence from the
central point

1:06:15.819,1:06:20.499
all the earth was measured at all as
distributed geometry was essential

1:06:20.499,1:06:23.899
in the beginning of the one god promised
horrors that he should inherit all the

1:06:23.899,1:06:26.559
land of egypt which was written in the
books by the order of the board of all

1:06:26.559,1:06:28.190
sorts of top

1:06:28.190,1:06:31.660
the writing producing copy to the house
of life also discussed they're giving

1:06:31.660,1:06:33.399
rise to philosophy

1:06:33.399,1:06:37.689
but concerned largely with cosmology of
natural sciences sort in short

1:06:37.689,1:06:41.449
there is no aspect of our civilization
that does not have this rise in the

1:06:41.449,1:06:42.389
temple

1:06:42.389,1:06:44.009
an eagle scout

1:06:44.009,1:06:45.039
concept is that

1:06:45.039,1:06:49.029
basically what you're gonna read our i i
have one of the very similar like that

1:06:49.029,1:06:52.509
it's a little more concise a contracts
ap bac

1:06:52.509,1:06:57.559
but it's exactly the same thing he said
all the arts and sciences began at the

1:06:57.559,1:06:58.669
temple

1:06:58.669,1:07:03.159
dance music architecture sculpture drama

1:07:03.159,1:07:04.279
and so forth

1:07:04.279,1:07:07.539
they all go back to the temple

1:07:07.539,1:07:08.889
and uh...

1:07:08.889,1:07:13.329
i think that's deaths this really
profound if you think about that

1:07:13.329,1:07:18.889
all all the arts and sciences go back to
the temple at some point i'm begging

1:07:18.889,1:07:23.159
rise the temple gave rise to all of this
court sure

1:07:23.159,1:07:25.090
that we have nowadays

1:07:25.090,1:07:27.789
in arm and our modern world

1:07:27.789,1:07:29.909
and i think that's just fascinating

1:07:29.909,1:07:32.489
it brother mib leases article

1:07:32.489,1:07:36.959
a perhaps creation drama or it's also
called a branch temple drama

1:07:36.959,1:07:40.139
he goes into some detail about how to
draw the line

1:07:40.139,1:07:41.819
uh... begins in the temple

1:07:41.819,1:07:46.139
and is is basically the temple

1:07:46.139,1:07:46.990
originally

1:07:46.990,1:07:51.200
bellamy let me show you up i've done a
lot of uh... research arm bands

1:07:51.200,1:07:52.979
particularly this was a

1:07:52.979,1:07:57.930
uh... opposed i did call the the greek
folk dance is a new steps we can vote

1:07:57.930,1:08:02.199
repose uh... one that i did originally
at several years ago but

1:08:02.199,1:08:06.779
uh... it shows the greeks pork dances
that they still perform today in fact

1:08:06.779,1:08:09.499
this particular day after you see here

1:08:09.499,1:08:10.470
um...

1:08:10.470,1:08:13.399
when you bring a bigger

1:08:13.399,1:08:16.849
this is the the the horrible

1:08:16.849,1:08:21.479
uh... is performed by a folk dance group
for the olympics and must be performed

1:08:21.479,1:08:25.560
at the olympics where it should be down
exactly

1:08:25.560,1:08:30.339
they're not interesting at the olympics
i and an eight bands uh... grace

1:08:30.339,1:08:32.729
during the games of two thousand five

1:08:32.729,1:08:34.199
and uh...

1:08:34.199,1:08:36.500
very interesting things going on here

1:08:36.500,1:08:40.460
uh... dancing in circles holding hands
the costumes and everything

1:08:40.460,1:08:45.120
went back to concede and video here but
i won't play that here's another picture

1:08:45.120,1:08:50.879
old why isn't that interesting cannot of
course of these sandhog kenya

1:08:50.879,1:08:55.929
uh... delta college polemic dancers
during the greek circumstance

1:08:55.929,1:08:59.260
uh... at their campus dedication
nineteen seventy seven

1:08:59.260,1:09:02.499
they're going around in a rain holding
hands uh...

1:09:02.499,1:09:08.509
uh... with uh... a leader in the center
i think he's his own agreed instrument

1:09:08.509,1:09:11.069
mera rationing get data

1:09:11.069,1:09:15.239
uh... and what he's leading the group in
the song and dance

1:09:15.239,1:09:17.159
uh... just very fascinating

1:09:17.159,1:09:18.779
in uh...

1:09:18.779,1:09:20.799
material uh... the

1:09:20.799,1:09:22.739
that uh... you can

1:09:22.739,1:09:28.270
you can see the the the remnants of the
temple

1:09:28.270,1:09:31.859
in just about everything other quote
here actually that the lecture kinda

1:09:31.859,1:09:35.369
paraphrase but avik i got a pretty close
that

1:09:35.369,1:09:37.569
um... the elder yes

1:09:37.569,1:09:40.370
of the latter-day saints believe that
the temple

1:09:40.370,1:09:43.290
is as old as the human race

1:09:43.290,1:09:48.219
and has passed through alternate stages
of of restoration of apostasy

1:09:48.219,1:09:53.239
which has left the world scattered with
fragments of the original structure

1:09:53.239,1:09:58.599
uh... many which are badly damaged uh...
or other prompt texting

1:09:58.599,1:10:02.760
com and uh... you know we see this kind
of thing all

1:10:02.760,1:10:06.510
over the place

1:10:06.510,1:10:08.030
this is a

1:10:08.030,1:10:09.429
there's no book right here

1:10:09.429,1:10:10.570
not to be plugging it

1:10:10.570,1:10:13.889
but uh... that's the cosmic reagan's
books talks about that

1:10:13.889,1:10:15.750
and how originally

1:10:15.750,1:10:17.179
the prayer circle

1:10:17.179,1:10:20.459
lost performed to music

1:10:20.459,1:10:25.129
and it was done like the whole peace to
tate dances to distribute it's rather

1:10:25.129,1:10:25.510
than

1:10:25.510,1:10:28.369
dance steps like we think it's it's
uh...

1:10:28.369,1:10:29.760
rhythmic

1:10:29.760,1:10:33.809
shuffling dance to this direction to
districts like no peace to you

1:10:33.809,1:10:36.409
and once you've got down to the hopi
home dances

1:10:36.409,1:10:40.360
have stated that plaza all day long and
watch them and listen to them

1:10:40.360,1:10:41.570
and filled it

1:10:41.570,1:10:44.420
you could uh... there's a power that's
generated there

1:10:44.420,1:10:46.510
and dipti

1:10:46.510,1:10:47.899
so let's take a bow

1:10:47.899,1:10:53.459
yahya i'm reminded of uh... technically
also noted this n

1:10:53.459,1:10:55.019
which article was that

1:10:55.019,1:10:57.599
uh... that uh...

1:10:57.599,1:11:00.500
literally christian pressure call was
the article

1:11:00.500,1:11:04.139
was she noted about some very early

1:11:04.139,1:11:05.989
uh... non-stick

1:11:05.989,1:11:10.639
uh... scriptures uh... i've believed the
book of jiu as the one that he was

1:11:10.639,1:11:11.679
referencing

1:11:11.679,1:11:15.999
wherein he talks about missus uh...
after the resurrection bring the the

1:11:15.999,1:11:22.059
fourteen-day on ministry of mice when he
is with his disciples and i think even

1:11:22.059,1:11:23.110
the

1:11:23.110,1:11:24.290
um... that uh...

1:11:24.290,1:11:26.760
america's there

1:11:26.760,1:11:28.249
and the bay

1:11:28.249,1:11:32.139
wanted to hear this is a reversal of
maastricht has announced its that show

1:11:32.139,1:11:33.429
the felt there

1:11:33.429,1:11:34.719
um... the book of geo

1:11:34.719,1:11:37.340
it talks about oppressed circle

1:11:37.340,1:11:38.870
um... where

1:11:38.870,1:11:40.380
the disciples gathered

1:11:40.380,1:11:43.449
christ tells them to gather around him

1:11:43.449,1:11:45.040
uh... and it

1:11:45.040,1:11:49.599
and tells them to you know change the
clothing uh... sober wearing white

1:11:49.599,1:11:51.090
uh... garments

1:11:51.090,1:11:55.469
to gather around him and then they will
uh... you know

1:11:55.469,1:11:58.449
perform this i think you can make a call
that the cama

1:11:58.449,1:12:04.579
of sportswear crisis leave this him and
they all repeated back to him

1:12:04.579,1:12:06.530
on after he has said

1:12:06.530,1:12:10.300
uh... and and that kind of amen type of
fashion

1:12:10.300,1:12:17.300
on them and so you can look that up and
actually read it in the book of june

1:12:19.579,1:12:21.519
sure go on

1:12:21.519,1:12:24.050
all right

1:12:24.050,1:12:25.589
provides the reading

1:12:25.589,1:12:29.039
but you want or or i can't no

1:12:29.039,1:12:31.570
uh...

1:12:31.570,1:12:33.999
it'll be fine my place

1:12:33.999,1:12:36.510
we lost one of our members

1:12:36.510,1:12:38.810
yeah steve so you might have had to take
off

1:12:38.810,1:12:42.330
nora other areas unfamiliar okay

1:12:42.330,1:12:44.730
harvard jiji juneau

1:12:44.730,1:12:45.530
hen

1:12:45.530,1:12:48.539
when you were talking about something
you just kinda

1:12:48.539,1:12:53.380
brought some unwanted are rejoining not
be music that one of the

1:12:53.380,1:12:55.330
where circle in that

1:12:55.330,1:12:58.830
was looking for the reference and they
will find it yet so i'm learning one

1:12:58.830,1:13:00.670
shuffling which is good

1:13:00.670,1:13:03.260
it was um...

1:13:03.260,1:13:04.760
uh... in

1:13:04.760,1:13:08.659
beginner's guide to construct in years

1:13:08.659,1:13:10.579
michaelson who's in

1:13:10.579,1:13:14.320
angry just talks about that how they use
to uh...

1:13:14.320,1:13:20.160
the barbarians used to play music trying
to resume uh... mckee

1:13:20.160,1:13:24.129
universal talents to create peaceful
newland years

1:13:24.129,1:13:30.010
mansell music was awaits you promote
healing into action we project needs

1:13:30.010,1:13:31.260
on types

1:13:31.260,1:13:32.290
in june

1:13:32.290,1:13:33.550
in reality

1:13:33.550,1:13:40.449
through the really fascinating so fifty
there was a belief that the planets

1:13:40.449,1:13:42.099
maidan

1:13:42.099,1:13:46.149
musical sounds as they went around in
their orbits and that he check private

1:13:46.149,1:13:47.580
had its on

1:13:47.580,1:13:52.320
specific sound no making an offer to

1:13:52.320,1:13:55.840
and that they were trying to reconstruct
effect that's what this

1:13:55.840,1:13:58.610
and uh... the holme

1:13:58.610,1:13:59.440
ears

1:13:59.440,1:14:00.739
is

1:14:00.739,1:14:04.649
the sum total sounds of naked there are
are some ancient things that say that

1:14:04.649,1:14:06.099
those

1:14:06.099,1:14:11.419
homes are also constructed by voicing
the files

1:14:11.419,1:14:13.769
uh... a elo

1:14:13.769,1:14:17.159
book when i was reading going there was
a lady there who talked about that had

1:14:17.159,1:14:17.980
us in there

1:14:17.980,1:14:19.969
the drum around part of the road

1:14:19.969,1:14:23.750
of temple church and she was having
everybody camped this stuff but it was

1:14:23.750,1:14:26.460
it was kinda cool at n_b_c_

1:14:26.460,1:14:30.409
you know that reminds me you know i i
read something about that as well

1:14:30.409,1:14:35.360
they say you know everything in the
universe of vibrates

1:14:35.360,1:14:36.139
and

1:14:36.139,1:14:39.140
we know you know from acoustic uh...

1:14:39.140,1:14:44.100
fairy we know that vibration as what
creates sound

1:14:44.100,1:14:48.190
and so we have everything in the
universe vibrating and you can see this

1:14:48.190,1:14:51.330
in-kind even involve very latest quantum

1:14:51.330,1:14:52.590
mechanics

1:14:52.590,1:14:55.789
that uh... where they talk about string
theory

1:14:55.789,1:14:58.340
matter is made up of alton me

1:14:58.340,1:15:00.550
be made up of all of these little

1:15:00.550,1:15:03.969
vibrating strings right

1:15:03.969,1:15:09.840
if we're all vibrating them i mean baby
might actually be producing music

1:15:09.840,1:15:13.369
everything and in the universe is
actually a song

1:15:13.369,1:15:17.000
and in that sense which is fascinating
to think about

1:15:17.000,1:15:18.449
well but admittedly

1:15:18.449,1:15:23.559
alluded to that but he talked about the
purpose for prayer circle he said

1:15:23.559,1:15:29.989
you gather and you start going around in
round of the idea is to

1:15:29.989,1:15:32.340
open up a conduit

1:15:32.340,1:15:35.090
from the earth hope to have it and
that's what these

1:15:35.090,1:15:39.660
what what's called the prophetic
experience what jarmin ezekiel italy's

1:15:39.660,1:15:42.409
profits based on a conduit open

1:15:42.409,1:15:43.530
up into heaven

1:15:43.530,1:15:46.289
and that they saw the throne of god at
the top of you can see that look a

1:15:46.289,1:15:47.530
revelation

1:15:47.530,1:15:51.650
and that how you do that is to gather
together and properly hold the circle

1:15:51.650,1:15:54.869
and at least says there must be a
stirring below

1:15:54.869,1:15:57.949
before there can be a stirring the
bottle

1:15:57.949,1:15:58.809
so

1:15:58.809,1:16:02.949
he kind of acted like he believe

1:16:02.949,1:16:06.449
that in some sense yeah

1:16:06.449,1:16:10.389
i think it's it's fascinating to think
about that but even even the very latest

1:16:10.389,1:16:13.919
and quantum mechanics berry

1:16:13.919,1:16:18.379
also testified isn't that sort of of
thing that you know the universe is full

1:16:18.379,1:16:19.869
of this music

1:16:19.869,1:16:20.979
uh...

1:16:20.979,1:16:22.150
and you know

1:16:22.150,1:16:24.459
going back to that idea that the temple

1:16:24.459,1:16:25.250
is

1:16:25.250,1:16:30.080
uh... scale model of the universe and so
that's why there's music

1:16:30.080,1:16:31.370
in the temple

1:16:31.370,1:16:33.389
and see what's fascinating

1:16:33.389,1:16:37.360
tools and using reconsidered you know
one of the crisis vitals

1:16:37.360,1:16:39.320
used the word

1:16:39.320,1:16:41.189
yes

1:16:41.189,1:16:44.340
well and there is some old stuff it says
that

1:16:44.340,1:16:45.159
god

1:16:45.159,1:16:46.489
spoken

1:16:46.489,1:16:49.880
the world into existence

1:16:49.880,1:16:51.190
c_s_ lewis

1:16:51.190,1:16:54.189
use that same concept in his uh...

1:16:54.189,1:16:55.709
narnia books

1:16:55.709,1:16:58.389
azlan saying

1:16:58.389,1:16:59.590
that the world

1:16:59.590,1:17:01.219
soon to creation

1:17:01.219,1:17:03.709
so yahoo i think so

1:17:03.709,1:17:08.929
okay the temple is a tangible symbol off
the principle of eternal progression

1:17:08.929,1:17:11.369
which culminated in god

1:17:11.369,1:17:16.210
the temple reflects things as they exist
in heaven

1:17:16.210,1:17:18.330
things as they were really are

1:17:18.330,1:17:20.689
chewing tobacco is where go ahead

1:17:20.689,1:17:24.869
i was gonna comment there that that's
that's one of the things that's i think

1:17:24.869,1:17:27.109
most

1:17:27.109,1:17:28.740
were one of the things that some

1:17:28.740,1:17:34.110
very interesting and uh... should be
noted about the temple that it is

1:17:34.110,1:17:35.630
unequal progression

1:17:35.630,1:17:39.399
at the temple symbol of eternal
progression were progressing

1:17:39.399,1:17:41.600
that the symbol the symbolism

1:17:41.600,1:17:42.760
in the temple

1:17:42.760,1:17:43.969
all of it

1:17:43.969,1:17:46.830
uh... indicate besito progression from

1:17:46.830,1:17:49.909
from one stage to another to another to
another

1:17:49.909,1:17:53.420
uh... it's uh... it's one step another
step another step

1:17:53.420,1:17:54.139
uh...

1:17:54.139,1:17:56.489
and and all that

1:17:56.489,1:17:57.590
indicates

1:17:57.590,1:18:01.909
you know this eternal progression mica
says the culminates in gauntlet and i

1:18:01.909,1:18:06.449
think this is one of the things that a
lot of our the critics of the church

1:18:06.449,1:18:07.409
um...

1:18:07.409,1:18:09.639
criticize

1:18:09.639,1:18:13.760
uh... that we believe that we can obtain

1:18:13.760,1:18:14.800
awkward

1:18:14.800,1:18:15.579
uh...

1:18:15.579,1:18:16.800
they were really

1:18:16.800,1:18:18.260
criticize us for that

1:18:18.260,1:18:21.760
but i find a good really interesting
uh... because

1:18:21.760,1:18:24.400
they don't seem to be

1:18:24.400,1:18:27.179
they don't seem to be aware

1:18:27.179,1:18:30.619
or have been i've studied much about
uh...

1:18:30.619,1:18:32.489
the very christian

1:18:32.489,1:18:36.800
uh... doctrines of the education and
bill says

1:18:36.800,1:18:40.030
uh... which is this very idea of

1:18:40.030,1:18:44.150
man's ability to become part of of the
divine

1:18:44.150,1:18:47.010
uh... it's uh... demonization

1:18:47.010,1:18:48.340
of man

1:18:48.340,1:18:51.369
where we can through christ

1:18:51.369,1:18:53.179
become part of

1:18:53.179,1:18:54.389
garter

1:18:54.389,1:19:01.020
uh... is very much alive and well out in
the even uh... christian world

1:19:01.020,1:19:04.999
the ideas of duplication theo sister
hard and studied and

1:19:04.999,1:19:08.540
and i think i i agree with uh... and one

1:19:08.540,1:19:10.600
uh... major of

1:19:10.600,1:19:13.919
publication that was there was talking
about the alesis

1:19:13.919,1:19:16.010
the says that it's a major

1:19:16.010,1:19:18.309
principle

1:19:18.309,1:19:21.239
christianne uh... christianity

1:19:21.239,1:19:25.520
i didn't know a lot of christians
realize that i think that's attache net

1:19:25.520,1:19:27.599
actually

1:19:27.599,1:19:31.209
you know it formally really when you can
see you

1:19:31.209,1:19:32.619
on

1:19:32.619,1:19:33.980
when you look at

1:19:33.980,1:19:39.730
we can talk to the general person and
uh... who has a christian background you

1:19:39.730,1:19:45.480
imagine if you just need to go men
trying to be in a mortal soul one that

1:19:45.480,1:19:47.659
never dies

1:19:47.659,1:19:51.849
isn't air with christ and all but not
hats

1:19:51.849,1:19:54.800
what one else would you call that kind
of coffee

1:19:54.800,1:19:55.739
exactly

1:19:55.739,1:20:01.110
and you know the reminds me of the
scripture where where christ says

1:20:01.110,1:20:04.850
you know to his disciples to his
followers he says we need therefore

1:20:04.850,1:20:06.130
perfect

1:20:06.130,1:20:10.210
even as my father which is an heavens
perfect you know what

1:20:10.210,1:20:14.050
what is he saying there

1:20:14.050,1:20:21.050
very uh... very important uh... topics
and i'm sure we'll talk more about that

1:20:21.369,1:20:22.150
jurong

1:20:22.150,1:20:23.239
number

1:20:23.239,1:20:26.139
but it was a tangible symbol of the
principle of eternal progression which

1:20:26.139,1:20:29.699
comments about at the temple reflecting
things as they exist in heaven teaches

1:20:29.699,1:20:31.219
that we are

1:20:31.219,1:20:36.400
the temple is where have imagined
earthly intersect

1:20:36.400,1:20:38.619
in a couple of his articles

1:20:38.619,1:20:41.350
their voices that temples

1:20:41.350,1:20:46.829
patiently we're not viewed as dwelling
places property

1:20:46.829,1:20:48.659
that they were

1:20:48.659,1:20:52.419
they were viewed as places where god's
came

1:20:52.419,1:20:54.569
down from heaven to visit ma'am

1:20:54.569,1:20:57.129
he talks about landing

1:20:57.129,1:21:00.110
places and wharfs in places where

1:21:00.110,1:21:05.350
this is a less chill barker or that
whatever conveyance is god uses a comes

1:21:05.350,1:21:08.830
down and lands at the temple to visit
with man and a m

1:21:08.830,1:21:09.670
goes again

1:21:09.670,1:21:10.669
if the court

1:21:10.669,1:21:12.409
the port

1:21:12.409,1:21:13.399
um...

1:21:13.399,1:21:16.719
the temple gives us an eternal
perspective of life's challenges

1:21:16.719,1:21:19.929
and the temple is the place where
eternity becomes reality

1:21:19.929,1:21:21.110
working time

1:21:21.110,1:21:22.280
space

1:21:22.280,1:21:25.279
and lives or extended

1:21:25.279,1:21:30.059
which of course takes us to john
seventeen three this is eternal life

1:21:30.059,1:21:33.729
that'll be the only true god and jesus
christ and i sent and in two hundred

1:21:33.729,1:21:36.760
thirty seconds into the dark and
covenant which says

1:21:36.760,1:21:40.709
this is eternal lies

1:21:40.709,1:21:44.909
so that it is the place where time space
and lives or accept

1:21:44.909,1:21:48.269
going back to the that the temple is
aware

1:21:48.269,1:21:50.389
heaven and earth intersect

1:21:50.389,1:21:54.169
uh... it's it's interesting to note that

1:21:54.169,1:21:58.889
the temples often called the gate of
heaven prophet

1:21:58.889,1:22:02.630
and there's actually a book that was
written on that by and their lives

1:22:02.630,1:22:04.820
nine hundred mark for the update on the
other

1:22:04.820,1:22:06.539
interact

1:22:06.539,1:22:10.259
there was a book by murder barker and in
there was a book uh... written by

1:22:10.259,1:22:14.909
matthew b brown which is i know the s
scholar who passed away unfortunately a

1:22:14.909,1:22:19.429
few months ago he also wrote a book a by
the same title

1:22:19.429,1:22:20.969
and

1:22:20.969,1:22:25.460
and the reason is because the temple is
this meeting place between

1:22:25.460,1:22:28.440
birth and havent where men goes u

1:22:28.440,1:22:29.409
uh...

1:22:29.409,1:22:31.899
come into contact with the divine

1:22:31.899,1:22:37.629
where where the presence of god made
well and where man they come in contact

1:22:37.629,1:22:40.170
and so you get this this connection
point

1:22:40.170,1:22:44.909
this this poor old isn't eight where man
can go through

1:22:44.909,1:22:47.739
and and and there's god

1:22:47.739,1:22:50.869
cosmic next should consider

1:22:50.869,1:22:52.269
you know

1:22:52.269,1:22:56.439
in fact our english word temple comes
from the latin templeton means a sacred

1:22:56.439,1:22:57.370
space now

1:22:57.370,1:22:58.699
i'd take

1:22:58.699,1:23:01.159
minor issue with brother skinner

1:23:01.159,1:23:03.479
temple doesn't mean sacred space

1:23:03.479,1:23:05.519
it means a county

1:23:05.519,1:23:07.109
a template

1:23:07.109,1:23:11.330
uh... night it is sacred space once this
properly laid out

1:23:11.330,1:23:15.590
odd north south east and west it up and
down and so on they become sacred spaces

1:23:15.590,1:23:17.829
but that's not the

1:23:17.829,1:23:20.639
actual meeting of the last word

1:23:20.639,1:23:23.529
marked out for the absolve survey showed
the heavens

1:23:23.529,1:23:26.849
in the ancient roman world view the
heavens for the place where science and

1:23:26.849,1:23:28.979
portents originated

1:23:28.979,1:23:31.989
and from where the god's answer to
humans

1:23:31.989,1:23:35.609
a temple was the places where sacred
things took place in bolting godsend

1:23:35.609,1:23:36.919
mortals

1:23:36.919,1:23:40.539
now what are these poor kids

1:23:40.539,1:23:41.849
uh...

1:23:41.849,1:23:44.959
the agent mesle american jazz

1:23:44.959,1:23:49.829
gary just like the whole peace to very
carefully observed the movements of the

1:23:49.829,1:23:51.010
planets

1:23:51.010,1:23:52.399
and the stars

1:23:52.399,1:23:53.960
and the times of year

1:23:53.960,1:23:57.240
and where the planets were on the side
of the moon with relationship to each

1:23:57.240,1:23:58.210
other

1:23:58.210,1:24:01.719
and that's where they saw the portents

1:24:01.719,1:24:02.489
uh...

1:24:02.489,1:24:03.610
it wasn't it

1:24:03.610,1:24:07.270
subcommittee was they they were actually
being

1:24:07.270,1:24:11.060
gary assiduous astronomers there are
pena staples

1:24:11.060,1:24:12.929
uh... from the buyer

1:24:12.929,1:24:14.670
abby has taken over

1:24:14.670,1:24:18.480
detailed over hundreds and hundreds of
years

1:24:18.480,1:24:20.000
garth norman

1:24:20.000,1:24:23.669
uh... at l d s archaeologist who has
spent

1:24:23.669,1:24:26.089
a lot of time

1:24:26.089,1:24:27.750
uh...

1:24:27.750,1:24:34.050
measuring that information and he's he's
probably the experts now on

1:24:34.050,1:24:37.300
the temple site at heats up

1:24:37.300,1:24:40.929
mormons for so many years of of

1:24:40.929,1:24:46.750
uh... going on and on about steel five
and how it's three highest dreamin it

1:24:46.750,1:24:47.539
isn't

1:24:47.539,1:24:48.360
um...

1:24:48.360,1:24:50.400
but it is our major

1:24:50.400,1:24:52.920
r q estou na mikel site

1:24:52.920,1:24:56.650
which he has to do with all of these
looking for the portents

1:24:56.650,1:25:00.829
and uh... finding the proper times for
this sometimes for that

1:25:00.829,1:25:04.269
and although it's may sound like
astrology to us

1:25:04.269,1:25:06.210
uh... let's face it abraham

1:25:06.210,1:25:08.639
whom we all say was a great astronomer

1:25:08.639,1:25:11.540
did not have telescope's he did not have

1:25:11.540,1:25:13.440
computers he did not have

1:25:13.440,1:25:15.040
uh...

1:25:15.040,1:25:17.210
biblical stress instruments

1:25:17.210,1:25:19.149
to measure redshift in

1:25:19.149,1:25:23.099
uh... what kinds of us nobody was doing
he wasn't watching the sun the moon and

1:25:23.099,1:25:26.739
stars at learning the portions prophet

1:25:26.739,1:25:30.459
yeah i think i think that's a good point
now you know even if you talk to you

1:25:30.459,1:25:32.800
need to go back and you know i talk
about

1:25:32.800,1:25:34.300
the the greek

1:25:34.300,1:25:37.369
histories and their mythologies

1:25:37.369,1:25:38.890
it's all about

1:25:38.890,1:25:44.890
the man going to the sacred places too
uh... come into contact with with god

1:25:44.890,1:25:49.770
right and bought because always existed
they lived you know up in the heavens in

1:25:49.770,1:25:52.869
the skies is where it because came down

1:25:52.869,1:25:54.760
uh... and and

1:25:54.760,1:25:57.270
the they came into contact with the
cards

1:25:57.270,1:26:01.290
three sacred places there's lofton
temples discussed

1:26:01.290,1:26:03.249
uh... in those greek

1:26:03.249,1:26:05.679
mythologies absolutely

1:26:05.679,1:26:09.860
and i'd like to get about the egyptian
because that's what we're doing all gone

1:26:09.860,1:26:14.260
and probably is the best example and
that's what john holden is very

1:26:14.260,1:26:18.679
your standard will be getting a paper
nurse symposium in went overboard

1:26:18.679,1:26:20.210
now it but uh...

1:26:20.210,1:26:23.209
he came he can show connections and
defenders

1:26:23.209,1:26:25.090
that is training in egypt

1:26:25.090,1:26:26.199
uh...

1:26:26.199,1:26:29.440
the abraham and rosa both got

1:26:29.440,1:26:32.570
experiences in the temples in egypt

1:26:32.570,1:26:33.649
uh...

1:26:33.649,1:26:35.609
you trust him who's who

1:26:35.609,1:26:38.030
john is an expert in

1:26:38.030,1:26:38.979
uh...

1:26:38.979,1:26:41.409
transfer this to the greeks and romans

1:26:41.409,1:26:44.440
so this is all very very cold stuff

1:26:44.440,1:26:47.880
a lot of this a lot of this will be just
let me get a plug here a lot of this

1:26:47.880,1:26:49.099
will be discussed

1:26:49.099,1:26:51.820
at our conference in october

1:26:51.820,1:26:53.669
cap uh... at

1:26:53.669,1:26:57.400
absent so everybody come their account
everybody come

1:26:57.400,1:27:00.309
yeah i just wanted to go over to tell
you really quick i think he had

1:27:00.309,1:27:03.949
something to show on your show on a
symbol of that right

1:27:03.949,1:27:06.620
is luther coon

1:27:06.620,1:27:10.040
uh... steve say so they're symbols

1:27:10.040,1:27:14.610
uh... dot com me switch back over here
too

1:27:14.610,1:27:16.609
uh... id

1:27:16.609,1:27:20.889
and i'm not an expert on this but this
is always been one of my favorite

1:27:20.889,1:27:24.780
symbols because of the fact of the way
that it was described to me that the

1:27:24.780,1:27:27.909
square represents the four corners of
the earth

1:27:27.909,1:27:30.320
and the circle as the dome of heaven

1:27:30.320,1:27:33.960
and so it's literally a way of saying
the place where the heaven and earth

1:27:33.960,1:27:34.840
meat

1:27:34.840,1:27:40.709
yadda count and so in my mind is such a
good symbol for the temple soldier that

1:27:40.709,1:27:45.909
tend not to promote its temple as well
as with several others

1:27:45.909,1:27:50.929
and that he had been relates to the
circle on this quarter

1:27:50.929,1:27:55.079
accommodation right now the circle and
the square which means wherein the

1:27:55.079,1:27:57.070
unanimous symbols are the

1:27:57.070,1:27:58.919
traditional campus

1:27:58.919,1:28:03.150
and square they were used as a record
curricula 'cause construction

1:28:03.150,1:28:06.590
m instruments in the ancient temples at
tere

1:28:06.590,1:28:09.080
how do you think how do you construct a
circle

1:28:09.080,1:28:11.919
excellent compass frank magazine

1:28:11.919,1:28:16.380
and when you lay out the cargo and the
covenant he draws square

1:28:16.380,1:28:20.369
and a m aedt the points of that were the
lines of that carter with the colors go

1:28:20.369,1:28:22.699
out infinitely to the horizon

1:28:22.699,1:28:26.480
and the circle of the horizon that makes
a circle

1:28:26.480,1:28:28.989
lesser came from richard

1:28:28.989,1:28:31.270
room back there

1:28:31.270,1:28:33.709
tell you talking about the symbol here

1:28:33.709,1:28:36.699
um... wierd things that i

1:28:36.699,1:28:39.989
i've always notice about it was kind of
striking times when you

1:28:39.989,1:28:45.480
uh... is seeing a a circle which
represents you know intermediate

1:28:45.480,1:28:51.679
something that can really be uh...
allison away in confined within a sphere

1:28:51.679,1:28:58.309
or something that implies uh... you know
the physical andy in almost

1:28:58.309,1:29:02.649
seems kind of strange when you look at
that when you consider what a temple is

1:29:02.649,1:29:07.649
in how you go into this physical
environment to be able to comprehend

1:29:07.649,1:29:09.270
eternal seats

1:29:09.270,1:29:13.510
to where there's a lot don't include
stingy with physical location to where

1:29:13.510,1:29:18.330
the they can begin to be understood none
locks

1:29:18.330,1:29:19.840
uh...

1:29:19.840,1:29:25.460
uh... understandable for morals what i
want to point it is a good water still

1:29:25.460,1:29:27.479
and absolutely

1:29:27.479,1:29:28.379
absolutely

1:29:28.379,1:29:31.869
and you know uh... as we talked about
before and i noticed you know in the

1:29:31.869,1:29:34.150
same paragraph it talks about how

1:29:34.150,1:29:38.250
you know what unscramble is a sacred
place marked out for observation of the

1:29:38.250,1:29:40.170
heavens and that's kinda what uh...

1:29:40.170,1:29:43.210
a scandal rick was talking about before
and he he

1:29:43.210,1:29:45.869
he noted uh... for example stonehenge

1:29:45.869,1:29:49.449
was very much one of these by while more
more

1:29:49.449,1:29:52.179
popular famous examples

1:29:52.179,1:29:54.290
of and ancient temple

1:29:54.290,1:29:59.449
there was constructed to make always a
rations of the heavens uh... it was very

1:29:59.449,1:30:01.610
laid out very orderly

1:30:01.610,1:30:04.780
laid out to you know it's on the white
from their son

1:30:04.780,1:30:08.049
during the solstice is what hit just at
right angles

1:30:08.049,1:30:09.949
uh... manta

1:30:09.949,1:30:10.959
and that was

1:30:10.959,1:30:16.260
uh... a sort of planetarium in fact is
is what the chocolates

1:30:16.260,1:30:18.199
exactly

1:30:18.199,1:30:23.360
well i think i agree i think we might
uh... we might be coming to an end here

1:30:23.360,1:30:24.850
opportunists

1:30:24.850,1:30:25.739
fired right

1:30:25.739,1:30:27.559
we didn't get very far

1:30:27.559,1:30:30.880
and it makes me i bring one more thing
and before we go

1:30:30.880,1:30:32.179
absolutely

1:30:32.179,1:30:33.049
uh...

1:30:33.049,1:30:36.880
the statement that we just passed that
says uh...

1:30:36.880,1:30:41.979
the temple is the place where eternity
becomes reality

1:30:41.979,1:30:44.610
now what on earth does that mean

1:30:44.610,1:30:46.580
i want to read a paragraph

1:30:46.580,1:30:48.719
out of

1:30:48.719,1:30:52.979
one of the best books on temples

1:30:52.979,1:30:55.600
but i've ever read

1:30:55.600,1:30:57.159
gerry status is mild

1:30:57.159,1:30:59.099
to book called hamlet's mill

1:30:59.099,1:31:00.280
i think

1:31:00.280,1:31:05.070
now this is a very dense paragraphs

1:31:05.070,1:31:10.309
but this is the kind of thing that when
you really get into it

1:31:10.309,1:31:11.880
welcome

1:31:11.880,1:31:13.929
it's a concept that's hard to get

1:31:13.929,1:31:16.409
but it's a concept that's important

1:31:16.409,1:31:22.679
sinai reality where eternity becomes
reality kind of here with me here

1:31:22.679,1:31:26.270
this isn't what cookie called living in
reality

1:31:26.270,1:31:30.989
and it is singularly different from
ordinary for objective reality

1:31:30.989,1:31:36.019
there are two kinds of reality living
reality an objective reality ordered

1:31:36.019,1:31:39.339
with the political thinks that this
brick here may have

1:31:39.339,1:31:42.499
he declared it was one sky comes round
each or spamalot

1:31:42.499,1:31:44.179
using the graveyard

1:31:44.179,1:31:46.769
what based uses we return a ratio

1:31:46.769,1:31:50.550
why it may not get match in asia traced
the double-breasted alexander to a

1:31:50.550,1:31:54.039
finding it stopped afp stopping a bundle

1:31:54.039,1:31:55.799
um...

1:31:55.799,1:31:58.699
what he's saying is there a characters
carol

1:31:58.699,1:32:01.269
real character to exist in our world

1:32:01.269,1:32:05.750
and then their characters that we refer
to as much a logical characters

1:32:05.750,1:32:11.729
who turn out to be more real for the
actual people who've lived inside down

1:32:11.729,1:32:16.089
here are already four characters two of
the material to lost in the case of his

1:32:16.089,1:32:17.170
history

1:32:17.170,1:32:19.879
yet all equally president hardy

1:32:19.879,1:32:23.719
whereas the most concrete character say
the directory total revenue

1:32:23.719,1:32:27.010
are not however they may affect us
otherwise

1:32:27.010,1:32:32.900
in that realm of true existence we shall
find stars are mindset doses of water

1:32:32.900,1:32:36.710
the eternal form so that will include
also the ideas of mathematics another

1:32:36.710,1:32:38.600
form of direct experience

1:32:38.600,1:32:42.570
world of history is outside as a whole
or mark i a m

1:32:42.570,1:32:45.620
does not any more than three da c a
generation later

1:32:45.620,1:32:50.800
mentioned the glories of cyrus and are
deserve sees but only medical heroes

1:32:50.800,1:32:56.230
just as our own middle ages ignored
history and spoke of arthur and go away

1:32:56.230,1:33:00.849
it had all been once upon a time they've
dante brings back missile powerfully to

1:33:00.849,1:33:01.800
life

1:33:01.800,1:33:05.530
it is because his own contemporaries
believe themselves truly descended from

1:33:05.530,1:33:07.119
darkness troy

1:33:07.119,1:33:10.780
and wondered whether the lord ulysses
might not still be alive whereas kaiser

1:33:10.780,1:33:11.879
barber rosa

1:33:11.879,1:33:13.989
asleep in his composure mountain

1:33:13.989,1:33:18.289
that must certainly be a stable xna
white or is it

1:33:18.289,1:33:22.070
fairytales were easily dismissed further
familiar sound

1:33:22.070,1:33:24.030
but it might turn out

1:33:24.030,1:33:27.379
that such great imperial figure
scattered into alleged

1:33:27.379,1:33:29.229
how the hidden life of their own

1:33:29.229,1:33:31.500
that they follow the laws of myth

1:33:31.500,1:33:33.369
laid out long before them

1:33:33.369,1:33:35.709
even as king arthur did not really die

1:33:35.709,1:33:39.469
who lives on in the death of a mystic
lake according to bruce prophecy so

1:33:39.469,1:33:41.629
godfrey jitterbug who had

1:33:41.629,1:33:45.489
david barbosa service alone brings the
true version

1:33:45.489,1:33:49.449
gives the orthodox one in strangely
preserved archaic language

1:33:49.449,1:33:53.489
the emperor sweeps onto the depths of
the watervliet watery best now

1:33:53.489,1:33:58.589
that might be just saw all pancake
credits impossible to clear

1:33:58.589,1:34:01.000
bloodiest opinions

1:34:01.000,1:34:03.310
may i think there is

1:34:03.310,1:34:06.310
there are stories like tables

1:34:06.310,1:34:09.199
but truemail there we go there's the
book

1:34:09.199,1:34:14.409
carol may affect is a language just like
art has its own language has its own

1:34:14.409,1:34:20.760
jargon law has its own vocabulary
medicine has its own language so doesn't

1:34:20.760,1:34:22.190
that happen

1:34:22.190,1:34:27.199
improvement for is the technical
language of eighty times through which

1:34:27.199,1:34:30.149
the secrets of the temple or transfer
method

1:34:30.149,1:34:33.419
they could be transmitted and told by
the barge the storytellers who did not

1:34:33.419,1:34:36.189
wish to have them but would transmit
them and of the people who understood

1:34:36.189,1:34:38.630
the language

1:34:38.630,1:34:40.629
and soul

1:34:40.629,1:34:42.250
that is what

1:34:42.250,1:34:44.039
true reality

1:34:44.039,1:34:49.939
is the reality of the stories that
happen over overwork him overhead over

1:34:49.939,1:34:52.840
to people like arthur delayed

1:34:52.840,1:34:55.590
whereas somebody like

1:34:55.590,1:34:59.769
comes first lives for a few years and
dies has nothing to do with it

1:34:59.769,1:35:02.089
but these these figures

1:35:02.089,1:35:03.489
are the ones

1:35:03.489,1:35:05.540
like adam

1:35:05.540,1:35:06.599
if

1:35:06.599,1:35:11.050
if in uh... a ritual sense

1:35:11.050,1:35:13.399
a person takes the place of adam

1:35:13.399,1:35:14.899
going through the ritual

1:35:14.899,1:35:19.539
he'd be columns are more real person
that he himself

1:35:19.539,1:35:22.850
no i don't know how to explain that

1:35:22.850,1:35:26.710
but those of the concepts

1:35:26.710,1:35:32.860
that really are inherent in some of the
solve old mythological talent worship

1:35:32.860,1:35:34.030
absolutely

1:35:34.030,1:35:36.809
absolutely about i was number yet

1:35:36.809,1:35:42.229
began more than i read into that phrase
you um...

1:35:42.229,1:35:45.239
eternity becomes reality

1:35:45.239,1:35:46.260
um...

1:35:46.260,1:35:49.989
i thought a lot about uh... assuming
power

1:35:49.989,1:35:50.829
where

1:35:50.829,1:35:54.379
uh... you know the scriptures talk about
how

1:35:54.379,1:35:58.030
when issuing powers given to the
apostles of the usual snow

1:35:58.030,1:36:01.969
bind on earth about which will be bound
and haven't sort of idea

1:36:01.969,1:36:04.750
um... and i thought about the ceiling
power of that

1:36:04.750,1:36:08.959
that power that we have and use in the
temple

1:36:08.959,1:36:10.599
yet really

1:36:10.599,1:36:15.379
expands reality to eternity

1:36:15.379,1:36:17.599
in a very little railway

1:36:17.599,1:36:20.919
i'm binding things hot here on earth
that will be bound in heaven for

1:36:20.919,1:36:21.970
eternity

1:36:21.970,1:36:23.340
absolutely true

1:36:23.340,1:36:24.270
paquette

1:36:24.270,1:36:26.280
bernstein alone

1:36:26.280,1:36:30.359
it's a would you see like uh...
ordinances

1:36:30.359,1:36:34.820
are serve that kind of function unite

1:36:34.820,1:36:39.540
uh... all of us would be may have been
gymboree met one miss well yes

1:36:39.540,1:36:44.980
that is how i think it's through ritual
and ordnance natalie says this is how we

1:36:44.980,1:36:49.919
has mortal beings plug into those
eternal verities

1:36:49.919,1:36:52.880
and just brought to mind uh... you know
this

1:36:52.880,1:36:54.070
this uh...

1:36:54.070,1:36:57.619
and i'm sure we will try to get into a
little bit about uh...

1:36:57.619,1:37:00.619
more about the ceiling powerhouse

1:37:00.619,1:37:04.899
blue as you talk about it's if this
power that buying is not the entire

1:37:04.899,1:37:07.419
human race together

1:37:07.419,1:37:10.949
and that we talked about this howard itb
s it's piccolo

1:37:10.949,1:37:16.409
uh... did seals the human race to get
all the way back to adam and uh... and

1:37:16.409,1:37:20.409
we could go into details and talk about
the in fees section two and

1:37:20.409,1:37:21.969
and that sort of thing

1:37:21.969,1:37:27.109
about how the notebook literate would be
utterly wasted if this was not so

1:37:27.109,1:37:28.989
and that sort of thing but

1:37:28.989,1:37:30.350
or probably

1:37:30.350,1:37:31.969
uh...

1:37:31.969,1:37:36.969
good for this evening it's been a very
enjoyable conversation i think i

1:37:36.969,1:37:39.040
i have certainly learned

1:37:39.040,1:37:44.379
a lot myself i i idea and so glad to
have uh...

1:37:44.379,1:37:45.380
rick you could

1:37:45.380,1:37:49.280
uh... gary anderson steve returns
heavier washburn

1:37:49.280,1:37:51.599
here with this uh... this evening

1:37:51.599,1:37:55.369
and to build the talk about these things
and it's been very up in lightning i

1:37:55.369,1:37:56.510
hope uh...

1:37:56.510,1:37:59.929
i hope you've enjoyed the discussion two

1:37:59.929,1:38:03.489
at energy level make you didn't uh...

1:38:03.489,1:38:04.590
wonderful

1:38:04.590,1:38:07.889
well we hope uh... we hope this has been
helpful i guess low

1:38:07.889,1:38:10.619
i'll probably get some feedback i
mention

1:38:10.619,1:38:11.610
uh...

1:38:11.610,1:38:14.340
over the next thirty days and

1:38:14.340,1:38:17.840
and if it's efforts if it looks like
it's a good thing and it and it's

1:38:17.840,1:38:20.810
working out well maybe we'll try it
again this next week and pick up where

1:38:20.810,1:38:22.119
we left off

1:38:22.119,1:38:23.600
in the tags that day

1:38:23.600,1:38:29.989
i personally think this is going to be
helpful and valuable to a lot of people

1:38:29.989,1:38:32.940
and really get to putting it together

1:38:32.940,1:38:35.089
brothels

1:38:35.089,1:38:39.719
well we we sure appreciate uh...
goldberger panelists that uh... joined

1:38:39.719,1:38:42.320
in with us this evening and uh...

1:38:42.320,1:38:43.139
well

1:38:43.139,1:38:44.790
will say goodnight to you all

1:38:44.790,1:38:46.230
and till next time

1:38:46.230,1:38:47.050
tonight

1:38:47.050,1:38:47.769
uh... and in that